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I managed to buy a set of front sections of the Washington Post Nov 23rd up to and including Nov 29th.
Then had these sent to Terry Martin who scanned the pages in for me by making scans of each quarter page, and from whereon I stitched them back together as the scans would allow me to. I think I did an alright job.
I am only showing mostly Oswald related stuff.
All ROKC scans by Terry Martin.
The large pages are fairly big, click on the image to see full size scan.
Nov 23rd.
Love that highlighted bit above!
Nov 24th
The first bit refers to Molina, the second to the encounter. At 12:45?
Nov 25th.
Nov 26th.
Nov 27th.
Nov 28th.
Nov 29th.
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Episode 124 of the Lone Gunman podcast, yours truly for two hours talking about the 2nd floor lunch room fugezi.
http://www.tlgpodcast.com/shows/ep124-debunking-the-2nd-floor-lunchroom-encounter
During the talk I make a mistake: I attributed exposing Oswald as a subversive to Jack Revill was Hosty and not Bookhout.
Thank you Rob Clark and the 1,425 people who have listened to it these past 48 hours already.

By: Stan Dane
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Found another batch with some interesting shots taken by Jim Murray. We see Captain George Max Doughty with Oswald’s finger prints, also Buell Wesley Frazier captured from behind while moving through the corridor and we see Jesse Curry of course. I like the shot with Oswald pleading his innocence to the press core while Elmer Boyd looks into Murray’s lens. I have to say that Murray had a real good sense where to be to get the shots.
I have more, but it looks like I am heading to busy times, so will have to find a slot to do some, whenever that may be. But for now enjoy this set and the previous ones.
- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
- Captain George Max Doughty, Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray. Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
- Captain George Max Doughty, Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
- Captain George Max Doughty, Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
- Captain George Max Doughty, Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
- Captain George Max Doughty, Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
- BWF seen from behind, Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
- Jesse CuDallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.rry by Jim Murray
- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
Previous sets
http://www.prayer-man.com/detective-j-b-johnny-hicks-sergeant-william-e-pete-barnes/
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Joe Molina’s HSCA interview which was supposedly to be ‘postponed in full’ yet it was already released in 1998.
Some interesting titbits in Molina’s testimony, see for yourself.
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
- HSCA testimony Joe Molina
I am working on redoing the page on Molina, but this will take some time since I have a few articles to do before I can dig into this matter.
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Lately a few individuals have tried to claim that Prayer Man was very short and they used ‘calculations’ and the ‘fact’ that Lovelady was standing on the landing when Dave Wiegman filmed the front of the TSBD. They used Lovelady’s height to ‘prove’ that Prayer Man (read: Lee Harvey Oswald) was way shorter and could not possibly be Oswald.
Let’s debunk this shall we?
All types of faulty and/or made-up calculations and lines drawn on a picture were presented as analytical research, none of which was supported by any type of evidence. No one bothered to mention what camera Wiegman was using, nor could any one present an exact location as to where Wiegman was filming from, add on that all this happened while the vehicle he was standing in was moving which makes it even more difficult to ascertain Wiegman’s position.
In short: utter junk science that no one else than the believers Richard Gilbride and Albert Doyle seemed to subscribe to and they ended up trolling a few forums with their science.
While going through the photos of the Wiegman film I came across a neat little find two days ago, something that I was only able to do so as we managed to get a high resolution scan from the NARA archives in the Richard E. Sprague collection.
The find was Bill Shelley (underneath No.3), with Prayer Man being No. 1 and Billy Lovelady No. 2. This pic. is from the second segment Wiegman filmed of the front of the TSBD and it also shows that Lovelady has stepped down (compared to his position in the first segment) and it also shows that Shelley has moved slightly more to the left (he is now behind Otis Williams whereas he is more to the right of him in the first segment, see the 4th photograph below). This is a good indicator that while the shots were fired they already made a move to go down and check out what was going on. The two Gerda Dunckel GIFs show that Shelley and Lovelady had left the steps and made their way to the rail road yard further west of the building within seconds after. I go in great detail about this HERE.
Shelly was standing on the top of the landing. Whereas Lovelady was not, as he stated in 1964 in an article by Dom Bonafede “I was standing on the first step”
Lovelady had a very curious attitude as he is seen in much lower on the steps and to the left, behind Roy Lewis/Carl Edward Jones in the Hughes film. This is while the motorcade is turning on to Elm St.
Altgens 6 shows that Lovelady moved up and further to the right, his distance is further away from Jones.
Brian Doyle and Richard Gilbride have been claiming, that Prayer Man is too short to be Oswald. This of course is not supported by anything but made-up calculations and picking up pseudo science from other peeps such as Drew Phipps and presenting pix with neat little lines and numbers that basically amount to nothing. Not one person at the forums this bunk was posted at supported any of it.
The kicker is that Lovelady was not standing on the top landing, because he is seen leaning against the railing in the first segment of the Wiegman film. Check his body posture compared to all other individuals on those steps, they are all standing straight, even though Lovelady is following the events happening down Elm St and his body is turned into that direction his body posture shows he is leaning. Take a look at the 2nd segment photo and you see that Lovelady is standing straight on the steps, as he is making a move going downwards.
The issue with that is you cannot lean against the railing while standing on the top landing!
See for yourself in the photograph below. The railing is mounted flush on the vertical part of the last step leading to the landing, the bar of the railing would be slightly in front of the landing. The deniers will claim that it is still possible, yet it would be so awkward and since Lovelady’s posture doesn’t ascribe to that it is safe to say that Lovelady from standing just behind Roy Lewis / Carl Edward Jones moved upward and to the right to the 5th or the 6th step of the TSBD stairs.
But why do we not throw something valuable on top and that is a statement by Lovelady himself in May 64 published in the NYHT by Dom Bonafede.
The lens Wiegman used was a wide angle lens, this creates distortions and Lovelady while moving downward as in the 2nd segment would appear slightly taller than Prayer Man since he is, by that time, standing more forward.
But what is more important is that Prayer Man is of roughly the same height as Lovelady and THAT makes Prayer Man, besides the enormous amount of other evidence a prime candidate to be Lee Harvey Oswald.
No stranger
No woman
No other TSBD worker has been identified for that position.
Oswald himself said: ”Out with Bill Shelley, in front”.
No dwarf either.
Brian Doyle and Richard Gilbride should get back to the drawing board and come up with their next scheme as this one, like their previous ones is dead in the water.
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Then there is another issue as to what Prayer Man was doing with the shiny object he is bring towards his face.
On my calibrated screen (and if you do not have one you may experience issues seeing this clearly as I do) the Wiegman film shows he using one hand (his right) to bring iot towards his mouth. This is not a camera! But more than likely the bottle that was photographed in Prayer Man’s position after the deed.
Close-ups of Robin Unger’s gif.
- Wiegman film, GIF by Stan Dane.
- Wiegman film, GIF by Stan Dane.
- Pic: William Allen.
- Pic: William Allen.
- Pic: William Allen.
- Pic: William Allen.
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What are the odds that both of Truly’s secretaries have the same conversation with the TSBD’s vice president just after the shooting?
Pauline Sanders who stood on top of the steps of the Texas School Book Depository, and Mrs Robert Reid who stood with Truly and Campbell near Elm St. both discussed the trajectory of where the shots came from just after the shooting, but with a few neat little twists.
Reid makes mention of it in her handwritten statement of Nov 23rd 1963, but there is one important fact that seems to be overlooked by many:
In it she says “I remarked to Mr. Campbell who was standing near by that I thought that the shots had come from our building. But I heard someone else say no, I think it was further down the street“
In the FBI affidavit of Nov. 26th 1963 there is no mention of this conversation at all. Nor is there any mention of this in the Secret Service Report of Dec 4th.
And when it is time for her testimony in front of the Warren Commission that ‘someone else’ who replied to her on Nov. 22nd has become O.V. Campbell instead!
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Pauline Sanders makes mention of the O.V. Campbell conversation on Nov. 24th in her FBI statement, and she does not repeat it anywhere else nor does she get called up to testify so that’s that.
But Sanders does have a telephone conversation with Reid and a truckload of hearsay is being relayed (with regards Oswald’s so called encounter with Reid in the 2nd floor office). And the whole thing is jotted down in support of Reid’s and Sander’s testimony.
- Handwritten affidavit Mrs R Reid
- Pauline Sanders FBI affidavit FBI Nov 24 1963
- Pauline Sanders FBI affidavit FBI Nov 24 1963
- FBI Statement R Reid Nov 26 1963
- Mrs R Reid Secret Service Report Dec 4 1963
- Mrs R. Reid WC Testimony
- Mrs R. Reid WC Testimony