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Tippit

Dealey Plaza UK had one of its meets at The Flying Horse again, and we had a jolly good time beers flowed and the subject was Tippit.

Funny how things go. Joseph McBride’s book Into The Nightmare is the best book on this subject and I read it 3-4 years ago, but what I had forgotten about is that McBride had interviewed Jim Leavelle and what he said is most interesting and naturally I will add these quotes to the 2nd paper Anatomy Of Oswald’s Interrogations. Leavelle is sinking deeper and deeper if you read what is below and in my paper.

When asked by McBride why Oswald was not arraigned for the killing of J.F.K. Leavelle replied:

“Now the thing was, the Captain (Will Fritz, the Head of Homicide, who was running the interrogation of Oswald) asked me if I had enough to make a case on him for the Tippit killing. And I said, ”Oh yeah. I got plenty on that.” I had him identified by about three or four people. And so Cap said, “Well go ahead and make a tight case on him in case we have trouble making this one on the presidential shooting.” “So that was one reason he was arraigned early on the Tippit shooting. But I was thinking that we also arraigned him somewhere down the line on the shooting of the president. But I wouldn’t swear to that offhand.”  (P.235/236).

When asked how his department had reacted to the shooting of the president Leavelle said: “As the old saying goes back then, “it was no different than a South Dallas nigger killin’” When you get right down to it – because it was just another murder inside the city lines of Dallas that we could handle. It was just another murder to me. And I have handled hundreds of ‘em. So it wasn’t no big deal.” (P 240).

 

TSBD drawings-3rd-7th floor

Final set for now, thanks again to Gary Murr for these.

These are drawings of the 3rd to the 7th floor, there is a page with measurements of the front steps and the pavement and a page with notes on the TSBD building’s height in comparison to the DalTex building and The Records Building.

All these drawings shed more light about the TSBD dimensions, way more than the WR versions.

More first floor drawings TSBD

Once again thanks to Gary Murr I can present another set of drawings of the 1st floor of the Texas School Book Depository.

These are made in March 1964,  the majority of it by SA Eugene Paul Arey, classified by the FBI as a “visual exhibits specialist.”

Gary spends an entire chapter on the FBI model and its construction in the first volume of his Connally trilogy, a chapter titled “Model Behaviour.” “I get the impression, indeed memoranda states as such, that the intent of the model was for the benefit of individuals who were to be called to testify to the WC regarding various aspects of the assassination event, in particular members of the DPD and witnesses/employees of the TSBD. However, I believe the display of the model became too cumbersome and so as a trade off the WC asked the FBI to produce detailed diagrams of the TSBD again for use during testimony sessions, such as Baker and Truly – mark where you were etc. etc. The model was moved to the “exhibits room”,  a singular room in the VFW  Building, access to which was controlled by J. Lee Rankin’s personal secretary, Julia T. Eide. She generated a “log book” in which anyone who visited the room – and she had the only key – had to sign the key in and out, note the times, identify themselves and anyone who was with them, etc. To me it is one of the more important documents that survives and I suspect very few people are aware of it’s existence. Indeed, I argue that a lot of what occurred as far as planning out the eventual SBT and in particular the eventual WC staff reconstruction in Dallas in May of 1964 took place in this room with the model over the weekend of March 14 – 16, 1964. FWIW

Thank you Gary, once again.

And there’s more to come ;)

TSBD 2nd floor drawings

Special thanks once again to Gary Murr.

If anyone feels inclined to build a 3D model then do let me see the end result :)

These are  detailed drawings made by members of the FBI Exhibits Section of various areas of the TSBD building. They were made in the first week of December, 1963, and were used in conjunction with the eventual construction of the FBI model of Dealey Plaza, TSBD, etc

These are of very nice detail and shows how short the area was from the first door to the lunch room door. So Oz was standing in the opening of the lunch room and Baker was inside with the door behind him shut, and then Truly leant in……….right.

FBI File:  62-109060-3961, Box 104A, Folder A1-1.

Detailed drawings of the front steps of the TSBD

Special thanks to Gary Murr for these who nabbed them from the Archives. So make sure you credit him if you are using these.

These are  detailed drawings made by members of the FBI Exhibits Section of various areas of the TSBD building. They were made in the first week of December, 1963, and were used in conjunction with the eventual construction of the FBI model of Dealey Plaza, TSBD, etc.

FBI File:  62-109060-3961, Box 104A, Folder A1-1.

Debunking The 2nd Floor Lunchroom Encounter one year later.

Just over a year ago, after 4 attempts! Rob Clark and I managed to do a good chat on the 2nd floor fugezi.

It ended up being the No.1 listened to show with up to this point with 1,049 Plays and 3,967 Downloads. Just over 5,000 listens. This amount was way above the average show ratings and to this day it is the No.1 show being way ahead in front of the No. 2 show. It is just a crying shame the LGP is no more. 

One year on I would have done some things different. The essay was only out by a month and since then it has been updated twice with a lot of extra information.

You can listen to it HERE.

Meanwhile I will try and make a new interactive presentation on video very soon.

By Stan Dane.

New updates to 2nd floor encounter paper

A second update has been applied to the Anatomy Of The Second Floor Lunch Room Encounter paper. A mirror link of this paper is available at the Dealey Plaza UK Website. It has been made by Bernard Wilds. Many thanks Bernard!!!

I have added
 St. Louis Post Dispatch article from Nov.26 1963 added on page 8.
 Medicine Hat News newspaper article added to “Research history….” page 10.
 Link to newspaper article from The Houston Post (Nov. 23rd) with Billy Lovelady’s remarks added. Page 30.
 Norman Redlich memo (3 pages) discussing the elevators added to “The Stairs and The Elevators” chapter, pages 50-52. Thanks to Malcolm Blunt for this!
 Text added to page 53, in the chapter “Did Truly Walk Ahead Of Baker”, with regards to the
Secret Service agents taking statements of the TSBD employees in early Dec. 1963.
 Also added in the re-enactment chapter I added an article by the Dallas Morning News on page 118.
 FBI re-enactment photo added, from Robin Unger, page 119.
 Document of Thomas J. Kelley added with regards to the Secret Service re-enactment on page 120.
 Set of FBI re-enactment photos added, which I managed to score at the Holland McCoombs collection. Added these, as they are rare and have not been seen before by many. Pages 122-126.
 Photo added of Marrion Baker alongside with fellow DPD officers and John Sherman
Cooper in Wa. Page 129.

 

Meme by Stan Dane.

The American Media & The Second Assassination of John F. Kennedy – London screening

Dealey Plaza UK meeting at the Flying Horse Saturday August 5th.
We have arranged for a showing of the John Barbour documentary: The American Media & The Second Assassination of John F. Kennedy

Director John Barbour blends archival footage from his 3-hour interview with Jim Garrison as well as video of the Zapruder tape, interviews with witnesses, and clips which show concrete evidence of how the mainstream media mislead the public with false information.

It will be followed by a Q and A with John Barbour via Skype. We intend to video record the Q&A.

New members welcome, if you wish to join us then email stuart.galloway@ntlworld.com

Meeting Starts at 12 noon. Film starts at 13:30 and ranting hour begins at about 4-ish :-)

INFO

Venue location:
The Flying Horse Pub
52 Wilson St.
London EC2A 2ER 
Tel: 020 7247 5338