Oct
19
So the lads have been back at it again, this time using the Wiegman film. After being obliterated by my previous post Duncan MacRae, Carig Lamson and Brian Doyle aka as Ralph Yates on Amazon and Albert Doyle (the dead father’s account) thought they’d give their verbal excrement technique another go.
Let’s compare pix shall we? In this case size does matter!
The Chris Davidson GIF, from Dave Wiegman stills. Source: Death In Dealey Plaza. Resolution of this DVD 768 x 576 px. Let’s take a look at a sample of this in a 1920 x 1080 px window. I am doing this for comparison reasons. This is not the exact same frame. This is a screen grab I managed to get myself from the DVD in question.
Click pic to enlarge.
The real source for this version of the Wiegman film is a theatrical newsreel version from 1964 from UCLA, the makers of the Death In Dealey Plaza would probably have a 5th generation copy to make their dupes from so that makes this a 6th or even a 7th generation, since their tapes were transferred to DVD and the screen shots used for the GIF are then 8th generation repros.
1st gen: Wiegman original
2nd gen enlargement to 35mm
3rd gen postive film sold on to other companies such as Hearst and UCLA
4th gen negative made from positive
5th gen makers of DIDP get a copy.
6th transfer to tape then the question is does it go from tape to DVD or from the dupe they got from UCLA. My guess is the former rather than the latter since there is not a huge difference in resolution and this happened more than ten years ago (the dvd rel. that is)
So the DVD would be the 7th gen.
The CD Gif the 8th
The Prayer Woman image the 9th!
Now we take the CD Gif and place it in the same window, yes that is how big the original is. Chris rotated the pic to make it line up with the other shot. It has had some post production as the contrast has been increased and the photo appears to be lighter. But size-wise it is pretty much the same as my copy.
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Now I post MacRae’s PW image next to the same GIF. And also inserted a 400 DPI version of the same CD GIF next to it.
Click pic. to enlarge.
So an 8th generations deep reproduction of an image, in its size as shown in the photograph above is being drastically cropped, “enhanced” and manipulated and becomes the actual 9th generation copy.
From this so called enhancement we can conclude the following:
- It’s size has been increased significantly even tho the resolution of the enlargement has been set back at 72 dpi.
- Increase of contrast and darkened overall
- The top of Prayer Man’s head has been cropped off.
- The appearance of wheel barrow man, if Prayer Man is Prayer Woman then surely MacRae, Lamson and Doyle can explain the sudden appearance of wheel barrow man. Not that anyone will believe this to be someone, but this points at things are being ‘made to appear’ inside that picture due to its excessive enlargement and post-production.
Wheel barrow man!. Click pic. to enlarge.
Now I place the Sprague neg. (No. 3) in there, the negs that we scanned in with a flatbed scanner have a much higher resolution than anything else publicly available and shown by any photographic researcher. This is not the exact frame as the one inside the CD GIF (No. 1) but it is very close. And the MacRae interpretation at No. 2.
The generations for this particular shot would be:
1st gen: Wiegman original.
2nd gen enlargement to 35mm.
3rd gen postive film sold on to other companies such as Hearst and UCLA.
4th gen negative made from positive.
5th gen is the positive made from that negative sold to Sprague.
6th gen are the Sprague negs.
7th gen the scans of which you see the one on the right (No. 3). They are also reproductions from large format negatives.
Source: letter from Richard E. Sprague.
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In all honesty the area that has been enlarged and manipulated by them is even smaller than shown with the No. 1 pic since they cropped the top of his head off.
I have left this image untouched besides drawing a marquee and applying auto levels to bring Prayer Man out a little more out of the darkness. The dust, even the hairs and scratches are visible on it and even that is enough to kill off the glasses, the bag, the teacup (nice touch Dunc’ but that’s stretching things a little too far….) and all the other make believe hooey advocated by Doyle and MacRae. But here it is at its best. Mind you that these are flatbed scans and we are in the process of getting these negs properly scanned in. And I for one cannot wait to show them!
MacRae and Lamson provide absolutely no evidence of how these images have come about, they are not able to reproduce any of it on any other Wiegman frame and they shroud their work in secrecy instead. Doyle just whimpers on like an unruly child, but it’s his crazy deluded headset that is most worrying, his Fetzerian remarks which are interlaced with Cinque style delusions are to be monitored closely.
Skillful photo experts, something Doyle keeps coming up with as support for his delusions, would not go along with his plan at all in the first place. They’d say GTFO and get me the best copy available, instead of messing about with 5th-9th generations down. So how about it Doyle? While you were taking a selfie in front of the TSBD did you bother to go inside and ask for the first generation copy of the Darnell film? Of course you did not……….
They can only debate fuzzy pictures, since they cannot refute the other mountain of evidence that places Oswald on the first floor and outside on the landing while JFK was blasted away.
Finally make up your own mind about this, but I know who my money is on and he ain’t a she.
By Stan Dane.
Oct
17
Some Parkland, Dallas streets, Dealey Plaza and The Trade Mart (of which there are more to come).
All pix by Jim Murray-Black Star. ROKC Scans from the Richard E. Sprague Archive at the National Archives.
Oct
09
Jim Murray at Parkland and DPD 3rd floor
Jim Murray photos inside the DPD 3rd floor, near Captain Fritz’s office. Also two shots of Parkland at night.
Scanned by ROKC from the Richard E. Sprague Collection at the Archives.
Sep
22
I managed to buy a set of front sections of the Washington Post Nov 23rd up to and including Nov 29th.
Then had these sent to Terry Martin who scanned the pages in for me by making scans of each quarter page, and from whereon I stitched them back together as the scans would allow me to. I think I did an alright job.
I am only showing mostly Oswald related stuff.
All ROKC scans by Terry Martin.
The large pages are fairly big, click on the image to see full size scan.
Nov 23rd.
Love that highlighted bit above!
Nov 24th
The first bit refers to Molina, the second to the encounter. At 12:45?
Nov 25th.
Nov 26th.
Nov 27th.
Nov 28th.
Nov 29th.
Aug
27
More shots by Jim Murray of Black Star, scanned by ROKC from the Richard E. Sprague Collection at NARA.
Aug
19
Found another batch with some interesting shots taken by Jim Murray. We see Captain George Max Doughty with Oswald’s finger prints, also Buell Wesley Frazier captured from behind while moving through the corridor and we see Jesse Curry of course. I like the shot with Oswald pleading his innocence to the press core while Elmer Boyd looks into Murray’s lens. I have to say that Murray had a real good sense where to be to get the shots.
I have more, but it looks like I am heading to busy times, so will have to find a slot to do some, whenever that may be. But for now enjoy this set and the previous ones.
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- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
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- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
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- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
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- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
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- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
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- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
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- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
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- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
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- Captain George Max Doughty, Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray. Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
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- Captain George Max Doughty, Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
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- Captain George Max Doughty, Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
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- Captain George Max Doughty, Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
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- Captain George Max Doughty, Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
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- BWF seen from behind, Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
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- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
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- Jesse CuDallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.rry by Jim Murray
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- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
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- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
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- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
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- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
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- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
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- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
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- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
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- Dallas Nov 1963 by Jim Murray.
Previous sets
http://www.prayer-man.com/detective-j-b-johnny-hicks-sergeant-william-e-pete-barnes/
May
15
Lately a few individuals have tried to claim that Prayer Man was very short and they used ‘calculations’ and the ‘fact’ that Lovelady was standing on the landing when Dave Wiegman filmed the front of the TSBD. They used Lovelady’s height to ‘prove’ that Prayer Man (read: Lee Harvey Oswald) was way shorter and could not possibly be Oswald.
Let’s debunk this shall we?
All types of faulty and/or made-up calculations and lines drawn on a picture were presented as analytical research, none of which was supported by any type of evidence. No one bothered to mention what camera Wiegman was using, nor could any one present an exact location as to where Wiegman was filming from, add on that all this happened while the vehicle he was standing in was moving which makes it even more difficult to ascertain Wiegman’s position.
In short: utter junk science that no one else than the believers Richard Gilbride and Albert Doyle seemed to subscribe to and they ended up trolling a few forums with their science.
While going through the photos of the Wiegman film I came across a neat little find two days ago, something that I was only able to do so as we managed to get a high resolution scan from the NARA archives in the Richard E. Sprague collection.
The find was Bill Shelley (underneath No.3), with Prayer Man being No. 1 and Billy Lovelady No. 2. This pic. is from the second segment Wiegman filmed of the front of the TSBD and it also shows that Lovelady has stepped down (compared to his position in the first segment) and it also shows that Shelley has moved slightly more to the left (he is now behind Otis Williams whereas he is more to the right of him in the first segment, see the 4th photograph below). This is a good indicator that while the shots were fired they already made a move to go down and check out what was going on. The two Gerda Dunckel GIFs show that Shelley and Lovelady had left the steps and made their way to the rail road yard further west of the building within seconds after. I go in great detail about this HERE.
Shelly was standing on the top of the landing. Whereas Lovelady was not, as he stated in 1964 in an article by Dom Bonafede “I was standing on the first step”
q Prayer Man, Billy Lovelady and Bill Shelley in the Wiegman film. Click pic to enlarge.
Lovelady had a very curious attitude as he is seen in much lower on the steps and to the left, behind Roy Lewis/Carl Edward Jones in the Hughes film. This is while the motorcade is turning on to Elm St.
Lovelady in the Robert Hughes film. Click pic. to enlarge.
Altgens 6 shows that Lovelady moved up and further to the right, his distance is further away from Jones.
Billy Lovelady in Altgens 6, click pic. to enlarge
Brian Doyle and Richard Gilbride have been claiming, that Prayer Man is too short to be Oswald. This of course is not supported by anything but made-up calculations and picking up pseudo science from other peeps such as Drew Phipps and presenting pix with neat little lines and numbers that basically amount to nothing. Not one person at the forums this bunk was posted at supported any of it.
The kicker is that Lovelady was not standing on the top landing, because he is seen leaning against the railing in the first segment of the Wiegman film. Check his body posture compared to all other individuals on those steps, they are all standing straight, even though Lovelady is following the events happening down Elm St and his body is turned into that direction his body posture shows he is leaning. Take a look at the 2nd segment photo and you see that Lovelady is standing straight on the steps, as he is making a move going downwards.
Lovelady leaning in Wiegman, click pic. to enlarge.
Lovelady stepping down, click pic. to enlarge.
The issue with that is you cannot lean against the railing while standing on the top landing!
See for yourself in the photograph below. The railing is mounted flush on the vertical part of the last step leading to the landing, the bar of the railing would be slightly in front of the landing. The deniers will claim that it is still possible, yet it would be so awkward and since Lovelady’s posture doesn’t ascribe to that it is safe to say that Lovelady from standing just behind Roy Lewis / Carl Edward Jones moved upward and to the right to the 5th or the 6th step of the TSBD stairs.
Front steps TSBD
But why do we not throw something valuable on top and that is a statement by Lovelady himself in May 64 published in the NYHT by Dom Bonafede.
The lens Wiegman used was a wide angle lens, this creates distortions and Lovelady while moving downward as in the 2nd segment would appear slightly taller than Prayer Man since he is, by that time, standing more forward.
But what is more important is that Prayer Man is of roughly the same height as Lovelady and THAT makes Prayer Man, besides the enormous amount of other evidence a prime candidate to be Lee Harvey Oswald.
No stranger
No woman
No other TSBD worker has been identified for that position.
Oswald himself said: ”Out with Bill Shelley, in front”.
No dwarf either.
Brian Doyle and Richard Gilbride should get back to the drawing board and come up with their next scheme as this one, like their previous ones is dead in the water.
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Then there is another issue as to what Prayer Man was doing with the shiny object he is bring towards his face.
On my calibrated screen (and if you do not have one you may experience issues seeing this clearly as I do) the Wiegman film shows he using one hand (his right) to bring iot towards his mouth. This is not a camera! But more than likely the bottle that was photographed in Prayer Man’s position after the deed.
Close-ups of Robin Unger’s gif.
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- Wiegman film, GIF by Stan Dane.
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- Wiegman film, GIF by Stan Dane.
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May
10
Some Shel Hershorn shots, quite rare (not any more :) ) and show a possible sniper position, which has a way better view than the so called sniper’s nest on the 6th floor of the Texas School Book Depository.
I have no idea when and why they went into the DalTex building to take these pix of a possible sniper’s position.
ROKC Exclusive scans from the Richard E. Sprague collection at NARA.
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I asked Bob Prudhomme what rifle was being used in these shots and he replied the following:
“This is a sporterised 6.5mm Carcano, but not the short rifle model that Oswald allegedly used. This is a sporterized 6.5mm Carcano M91 (or M91/41) long rifle. Three things give it away.
1. The distinctive protruding Carcano magazine.
2. The very obvious split bridge on the receiver, requiring the bolt handle to be almost vertical when extracting a cartridge.
3. The M91 and M91/41 were made with straight bolt handles. If you look closely, you can actually see where a gunsmith has heated this handle up with a torch, and bent it downward, giving it a more sporty look.
I might also point out that, if this is a Carcano rife (and I believe it is one), there is no way a scope could be mounted directly above the receiver, as shown here. It would have to be offset to the left of the receiver, as can be seen on C2766.
There are two reasons for having to offset the scope to the left on a Carcano.
1. As I pointed out, the bolt handle stands straight up when extracting an empty cartridge, and would hit a scope directly above the receiver. Even the bent down handles will interfere with a scope.
2. As the Carcano must be loaded with a clip, there is no way a clip can be inserted into the magazine with a scope directly above the receiver.
Then there is the issue as to when these were taken, well….at the education forum the discussion pointed to an old thread started by Don Roberdeau about Mack White who was in Dealey Plaza as an eleven year old.
I quote: “At one point, my father pointed out the so-called “sniper” window to me. As I was looking up, my eye wandered away from the window to the fire escape on the building across the street–the Dal-Tex building-where I saw two men taking turns looking through the scope of a rifle mounted on a tripod.
I was alarmed. “What are they doing?” I asked.
“It’s part of the investigation,” said my father.
So the police were checking out an alternative sniper perch. Evidently, that morning, there was still something resembling a real investigation. The investigation, of course, would end the next day with Oswald’s death.”
