REOPEN KENNEDY CASE

Looking south down Patton to Jefferson at a bus at the corner.


Looking towards Patton from South side of Jefferson. Note Bus Stop red arrow and where another should be opposite side Jefferson Blvd.

Greg at February 13, 2015 at 1:42 AM

Is there any way an innocent Lee is tricked into going to the TT? Serious question and I need an answer!

Perhaps you are looking at the situation the wrong direction around. All the dire and sinister trappings of the TT seem to have been added later, some of it much later.

Lee had the afternoon off. What to do? Go buy a Dr.Pepper and sit around his room - in whatever boarding house he may have actually resided - or take in a movie. There's a new Van Heflin flic playing at the TT, so why not?

There was nothing luring him to the TT, only - if Lee's supposition is correct - Reed following him and letting someone know where he was. Perhaps he was not acting antsy, moving and changing seats numerous times, and maybe his countenance was not really frightening to Julia Postal and the boys... well, not until later's retrospection when everything took on dire meaning.

I think Lee was just there to see a film and take his mind off the events of the day and to cogitate on what it might mean to him and his real work at the TSBD. Surely, he must have considered some connection between the assassination and his presence there but he would need some down time to mull it over.

Some people have to be in a still and quiet environment to "think things through clearly" but other people prefer noise and action, something that can occupy their frontal lobes while the good ol neo-cortex can tackle the problem. If the thoughts are too raw and clogged up - chaotic from too many tangles - how better to shut down that portion of the brain by being engaged in watching an action adventure?

I have found it works for me as well, sometimes.

So, just thinking out loud, I don't consider any portion of the authorized version of the TT charade to require LHO being "lured" to the place.

Discounting Smalls account herein gives a Houston and Elm traffic description





An interesting find in CD 689 is the Second Avenue 12 and Lagow 14 Route Cards. That are copied in an odd way.
https://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=11087&relPageId=13
It shows PINKSTON and GARDEN LANE for inbound Second Ave. And Troy and Hatcher for Inbound Lagow.
The crop done to the shceduled times shown, although not for Oak Cliff, show a 1:04 and 1:24 in plus a 1:13 and 1:33 inbound, and are indicative off a bus every 10 minutes inbound but  again why crop the "inbound times" from a Route Card for SW Dallas unless that was important and outbound times were not. I mean they barely copied the 12 and first few letters of Second... I say it was to show the 10 minute bus interval. (as well as a transferable bus from point 6)
They cared not when these buses left Commerce!! Just when they would have been inbound. Or was it just a horrible copy job, one would think Hoover may scoff at an agent whom can't even copy a schedule card completely.
I think it is Odd?

Also odd is the 14 and 15 buses.
Often they are called Ramona and or Lagow, mixed together in CD 689 etc.
Ramona is in Oak Cliff and Lagow would be in SW Dallas on the other side of the river.
They are wrong about transfer point 7, you can not transfer at Jefferson Blvd to a Second or Lagow bus they are no where near Jefferson!.
Unless Hampton and Sunset runs continue to become the Second and Lagow...
Did the 10 and 11 turn into the 12 and 14 .... ? And did Dallas Trans. not have a Run 13?

1963 BUS RUNS DALLAS 1963

1 Belmont

2 Ervay

4 Bishop

5 Tyler

6 Forrest

7 Harwood

8 Oak Lawn

9 Crosstown

10 Sunset

11 Hampton

12 Second Ave

14 Lagow  (Ramona15?)    http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=11293&relPageId=211

15 Ramona

17 Mt Auburn

18 Parkview

19 Abrams

20 Skillman

21 SMU

22 Beckley

23 Lakewood

24 Capitol

25 West Shore

29 Maple

30 Marsalis

32 Royal Hills

33 Baltimore

34 Vickery

36 Preston Hollow

39 Love Field

42 Elmwood

44 So Oakland

46 Meadow

48 Beverly Hills

52 Singleton

54 Beverly Hills

55 Lancaster

59 Ledbetter

62 Wynnewood

63 Industrial

This is the list from the 1942 Dallas Railway and Terminal Company Map Street Cars:

1 - Belmont

2 - Ervay

3 - Junius Heights

4 - Highland Park

5 - State

6 - Myrtle

7 - Harwood

8 - Oak Lawn

9 - Crosstown

10 - Sunset

11 - Hampton

12 - Second

14 - Forney

15 - Trinity Heights

16 - Seventh

17 - Mt Auburn

18 - Parkview

Motor Coaches:

20 - Skillman

21 - Akard

22 - Beckley

23 - Lakewood

24 - Capitol

25 - Greenway

26 - Lake

27 - Swiss

28 - Lemmon

29 - Love Field

31 - Hickory

32 - S University Park Express South

33 - Kessler

34 - Vickery

35 - Western Heights

36 - Preston Hollow

52 - Eagle Ford

54 - Beverly Hills

Feeder Coaches:

40 - Bluff View

41 - Cedar Crest

42 - Elmwood

43 - Fitzhugh

44 - Grand

45 - Jefferson

46 - Lakeside

47 - Lisbon

48 - Owenwood

49 - Spring

50 - White Rock

51 - Wilshire

53 - Fruitdale

55 - Lake Highlands

56 - Oak Cliff Crosstown

Good thinking Lee,

I had a post I lost that was about Stuart L Reed following LHO. Wanted to get edge numbers from slides to establish the order taken. I have never seen a full slide with edge detail. I have not seen any way for those whom claim the number of each slide is really the actual number from the roll.
Has this been explored. I will try.

Reed slides:

Hi,

We've forwarded your question to the Center for SE La. Studies.

Their direct contact information is below:

http://www.southeastern.edu/acad_research/programs/csls/index.html

Center for Southeast Louisiana Studies

Sims Memorial Library, Room 306

1211 SGA Drive

SLU Box 10730

Hammond, LA 70402

Tel: 985-549-XXXX

Director

Dr. XXXXXXX XXXX

selahistory@southeastern

Greg at February 13, 2015 at 1:42 AM

Is there any way an innocent Lee is tricked into going to the TT? Serious question and I need an answer!

Terry Martin at February 13, 2015 at 9:02 AM

Greg at February 13, 2015 at 1:42 AM

Is there any way an innocent Lee is tricked into going to the TT? Serious question and I need an answer!

Perhaps you are looking at the situation the wrong direction around. All the dire and sinister trappings of the TT seem to have been added later, some of it much later.

 

Lee had the afternoon off. What to do? Go buy a Dr.Pepper and sit around his room - in whatever boarding house he may have actually resided - or take in a movie. There's a new Van Heflin flic playing at the TT, so why not?

 

There was nothing luring him to the TT, only - if Lee's supposition is correct - Reed following him and letting someone know where he was. Perhaps he was not acting antsy, moving and changing seats numerous times, and maybe his countenance was not really frightening to Julia Postal and the boys... well, not until later's retrospection when everything took on dire meaning.

 

I think Lee was just there to see a film and take his mind off the events of the day and to cogitate on what it might mean to him and his real work at the TSBD. Surely, he must have considered some connection between the assassination and his presence there but he would need some down time to mull it over.

 

Some people have to be in a still and quiet environment to "think things through clearly" but other people prefer noise and action, something that can occupy their frontal lobes while the good ol neo-cortex can tackle the problem. If the thoughts are too raw and clogged up - chaotic from too many tangles - how better to shut down that portion of the brain by being engaged in watching an action adventure?

 

I have found it works for me as well, sometimes.

 

So, just thinking out loud, I don't consider any portion of the authorized version of the TT charade to require LHO being "lured" to the place.

 

Thanks Terry,

I think what you and Lee put forward is very possible.  But I have a specific reason (which may or may not be valid) for thinking he was lured/sent there. 

WRT your scenario... was this the first time he had been to the TT --- had he been to the movies at all previously since returning to Dallas? If he had, then if not the TT, where, and why the TT this time?  

So, just thinking out loud, I don't consider any portion of the authorized version of the TT charade to require LHO being "lured" to the place.

As much as I respect your opinions Terry, I'm afraid I can't agree with you here. The revolver Oswald allegedly had in his possession inside the Theater was by all likelihood the one used to kill Tippit. However, we have very good reason to believe that he actually didn't have it with him. When taken into account with the evidence that a wallet was discarded within the vicinity of the Tippit murder scene containing ID for Oswald and Hidell (when Oswald's wallet was inside his pants pocket), this indicates that he was framed. In order for that to happen, I think he had to be lured to the Theater. I mean, the conspirators surely wouldn't have depended on luck. Of course, I can't prove any of this, but I firmly believe that this is what the evidence indicates.

Hasan, we can disagree on the issue. Since we're just throwing out ideas, I tossed in mine. We can just as likely throw it out before we come to the resolve. I do not contend any feasibility on probable outcomes and, since I believe you know more about this than I, you're probably right. Certainly, once he was safely in the theater, they could kill Tippit, plant the evidence, and head for the TT even before Oswald's popcorn began to cool. (Although I don't recall if he bought any.) The conspirators most certainly weren't depending entirely on luck by 1pm but they probably knew he was in the theater before Tippit was shot.

Greg, I have no clue if Oswald had been to the TT before. I am not even sure if he was a theater-goer or a fan of Van Heflin. I am not even sure if it was the only theater in the area or the closest.

I do think that if he was lured to the location, it had to be by someone he trusted. And who, I wonder, might that have been? Not Gordon Shanklin or Forrest Sorrells, I am sure, but perhaps our old friend Hosty? I am not married to the chronology Lee put forward but I always prefer to start with the simple solutions.

Once they get a bit more complex, my head starts to hurt. LOL

Hasan, we can disagree on the issue. Since we're just throwing out ideas, I tossed in mine. We can just as likely throw it out before we come to the resolve. I do not contend any feasibility on probable outcomes and, since I believe you know more about this than I, you're probably right. Certainly, once he was safely in the theater, they could kill Tippit, plant the evidence, and head for the TT even before Oswald's popcorn began to cool. (Although I don't recall if he bought any.) The conspirators most certainly weren't depending entirely on luck by 1pm but they probably knew he was in the theater before Tippit was shot.

We certainly can disagree, Terry. I have no qualms about that. Some people probably think it would be ludicrous for the conspirators to lure Oswald into the Theater before Tippit was killed, but I don't think it would really matter if the idea was to get the fat tub of shit (Jerry Hill) to pretend to take the revolver off of him during the scuffle, in the hope that the bullets fired at Tippit would be traced back to the revolver.

Question:

If the Adrian Hamby episode at the library was contrived (and I firmly believe it was) why was it contrived?  What purpose did it serve?

P.S. To answer Greg's question about being lured to the Theater then yes, it's possible.  Mr. Lowery was just down the road.  It's also just as possible that he went there of his own free will.

Any american travelling to or having dealings with Central American may have a touch of the CIAs about them.

Lee Farley at February 11, 2015 at 6:18 AM

That's a pretty neat summation, Redfern.

 

There is still fertile ground to be ploughed on this issue. To use a phrase that John used to describe the transfer system the spokes of the wheel certainly protrude out from the bus and taxi journey into other areas of the case. The dominoes continue to fall.

 

I have some key areas that I believe need some focus and attention.

 

Was there a concerted effort to make it appear Oswald was aboard a bus by instructing certain individuals to be in place so that "evidence" was available or was this story made up on the hop after information was provided to the DPD through an incident of mistaken identity?

 

Where was Oswald living on 11/22? I am absolutley convinced that he did not live at, or ever step foot inside, 1026 North Beckley and, therefore, his accomodation during this period of time is currently unknown. Greg has a hunch that he was actually living at the Paine house throughout the entire period in question which is plausible. We also have to leave on the table the possibility that he was living at 621 North Marsalis with Mary Bledsoe during this entire period and he did not leave his rented room at this property less than a week after moving in. Another possibility is that he was living at the West Neely house in the lead up to the assassination because, after the hard work that Greg and others have put into looking at the evidence relating to this residence, we certainly know that something dodgy was going on concerning its occupants. The balance of evidence strongly suggests the Oswald's did not live there in late '62 and early '63. The William Whaley taxi ride certainly marries up to a drop off point much closer to Neely Street than any of the other properties in the Oak Cliff area and some of the Secret Service timing exercises used Neely Street as a fixed point when timing the taxi journey. The question is why?

 

Now I know that Oswald did not take that cab, and I know that Oswald was not on that bus. This is a categorical certainty that is beyond doubt. If the evidence we have amassed was presented to a jury in a trial there is no way that anyone in their right mind could not see what was really going on. The junior counsellors on the Warren Commission knew this too and, I might add, they knew exactly where the details of the real plot lay. They knew what was really going on. Unfortunately, all the hard graft that the junior guys performing the groundwork resulted in was to provide the more senior lawyers and Commission members to opportunity to block the inquiry at the necessary points and keep a lid on the cover up. How do I know this? Simple. Burt Griffin and Leon Hubbert produced this staff memo for the attention of serial-liars Belin and Ball at the point in time that Whaley, McWatters, Markham and Bledsoe were being prepared for testimony:

 

What did Belin and Ball do with this information? Fuck all. They took it and they buried it. They prepared their witnesses in such a way as to avoid the uncomfortable questions being raised by the likes of Griffin, Hubert, and Redlich. They hid information. They swerved information. They made testimony over complicated by asking convoluted and bizarre questions. They ignored things.  They didn’t ask the right questions; the simple ones. They stopped witnesses dead in their tracks. They lead them. They readied many of them to perjure themselves. This was the most dishonest investigation that took place in the 20th century and when reading the staff memos the level of fraud slaps you in the face.

 

Hubert and Griffin knew, absolutely knew, that Crafard was involved in this thing and instead of being treated as a suspect, as per Hubert and Redlich’s allegations, Crafard was instead treated like some sort of star witness against his former boss, Jack Ruby.

 

Another person of interest who we know very little about is the son of Mary Bledsoe, Porter Bledsoe.  Whenever I think about him my spidey-sense goes haywire.  I'm always wary of witnesses who were completely ignored.  Porter Bledsoe was never officially interviewed by any law enforcement group, yet, he was the one we are led to believe made the phone call to the DPD on the afternoon of 11/22 to tell them about his mother's interaction with a "maniacal" laughing boy.  He also sold "evidence" connected to the case in the form of the calendar page containing Oswald's name when he was a tenant at his mother's house.  The DPD and FBI saw fit to interview the guy Porter sold the calendar to, Mike Neibur, but couldn't find the time to have a chat with Porter himself.  We can have a tendency to think of Porter as a kid given how he is described in Mary's testimony but he was a grown man in his 40's.  There is more to Porter than we'll ever be able to discover.  I also believe the "dilapidated house" that was originally an "estate" that Harry Olsen was protecting could possibly be Mary Bledsoe's house and if true we have a jigsaw puzzle that needs putting together with this in mind.

Where is that Bledsoe calendar page now?
Neibur get it back?

Crafard writes down Leona Miller's phone number.
http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0042a.htm
This is the same phone number as Davis Sisters had in Nov '63.
So why did these ladies share this Phone with Miller whom called supposedly about waitress jobs.
Sounded more like Miller getting the Davis girls work at Ruby's perhaps?
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.assassination.jfk/vRVcfuqjgso/GRHq5_ti_ucJ

Leona "Lane" address was given as 3786 Northview, Dallas Tx  which is shown as being built in 1959, when Esther and Leona moved to Dallas from Chicago?
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh25/pdf/WH25_CE_2282.pdf
and  Page 108 show Esther Miller is at this address
http://media.nara.gov/dc-metro/rg-272/605417-key-persons/ruby_jack_activities_nov_22-24_63-jan_1964/ruby_jack_activities_nov_22-24_63-jan_1964.pdf

This shows Esther address was the Northview and Leona resided with her Mother there.
Greg did a search and came up with Leona Miller @ 624 1/2 W 10th and her number was WH 6-9847.

So I thought about Van Gogh Studios and found this...
http://pepperphoto.smugmug.com/

Paul Dusza. My roots in photography go back to when I was a kid. My dad managed the largest home portrait photography studio in Chicago. In 1970 we moved to Dallas and he ran, and ultimately bought, the only remaining franchise of the same company, which was called Van Gogh Studios. At a very early age he would bring home proofs that my sisters and myself would number, and just out of looking at the poses we were taught good poses from bad.

All Crafard needs to be made into the perfect dupe for LHO is a MC ring and a stretch band bracelet with LEE on it.

You know they had the cab guy nailed as Crafard.

To 500 Block Beckley at Neely was always odd spot to exit any cab.
Whaley had his passenger get out, go infront of cab, cross the street and continue on down Beckley.
Of course all that changed with the Tippit timing problem.
They had him cross street and head North up to rooming house (Need gun hidden in a five by ten foot space)

Rooming house with a bent curtain rod. Hmm might need to get a new one from Irving.  Love that picture!!

But the cab to Neely may have something to do with Hill.

Mr. BELIN. At any time up to the time you left, did you ever get any address on the suspect as to where he lived other than the statement of Captain Fritz that he had this address on Fifth Street somewhere in Irving?

Mr. HILL. Paul Bentley called off two addresses. One, as I recall, in Irving, and another one in Oak Cliff, when he was reading from information inside the suspect's billfold. But neither of these addresses was an address on 10th or on Beckley.

As to exactly what they were, I don't recall, as I didn't see the identification.

Mr. BELIN. Would one of them have been an address on Neely Street?

Mr. HILL. It very possibly could be. In fact I believe it was.

Mr. BELIN. To the best of your knowledge, did anyone in the car in which you were riding down to the police station ever mention any Beckley Street address for the suspect?

Mr. HILL. No.

Mr. BELIN. To the best of your knowledge, when the suspect was brought into the police station, up to the time you left him with Captain Fritz there, had anyone mentioned a Beckley Street address?

Mr. HILL. No.


Because Hill blabbed about name being O-S-W-A-L-D to NBC so quickly there is no way they could not have had only the Oswald ID in hand. ie no Hidell.

But here we have Senkel leaving DPD at 2:30 and when he gets to Beckley he checks register for LEE HARVEY OSWALD and HIDELL!!!
http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth190228/m1/5/
Senkel here states 17 rooms 16 occupied. Was the empty room Herbert Leon Lee's? We only have 10 or 11 renters listed.
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?absPageId=486123&imageOnly=true

Where else could LHO be during those days before the assassination. The Paines, Bledsoes, Broke into and was sleeping at empty Neely apt. Was sleeping at empty house next to Paine residence. YMCA.

Roberts supposedly sees Lee bring his clothes to Beckley when he rents the room.
She said it was a service bag or a duffle bag when prompted. or 1 Sea Bag.
We are never show any evidence for the bag that brought the clothes to Beckley.
And when one looks at the list of items taken from Beckley, one may ask if this was a set-up.
LHO would know the first week that the landladies look through renters stuff, imagine what Gladys and Earlene said when they found a Russian Passport, USSR communism book, Russian letters, an FPCC handout!, Worker, Undisireable Discharge letter, and various other magazines, books, and letters as to make LHO into a communist in their eyes.
However it seems more like an bag Lee had at the Paine garage where he kept such bulk, and it was brought out during the 'half-hour" wait at Irving by police, or the Sea bag was ready to go after Paine has a half hour notice.
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/16/1650-001.gif
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/16/1650-002.gif

LHO had his Russian radio (Myduct?) "brown and yellow gold Russian make portable radio" (24H343) at Beckley too...did it even work?
He must have wired an North American plug to the cord end.

http://shortwaveradioworld.blogspot.com/2014/11/soviet-radio-history-in-pictures-part-i.html

Beckley Register as it is called at Beckley leaves a lot to be desired from a "registrants" point of view
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh20/pdf/WH20_JohnsonGladys_Ex_A.pdf



I mean how did Lee get his receipts for the 8 bucks each week?
Did the other boarders get any receipts?
Were any asked about their paperwork, receipts or evidence to show how they did business with the rooming house?

Markham knows Ruby for past two years. Senator too?
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=10756&relPageId=566
http://hdblenner.com/dirtylittlecompany.htm

Beowulf at February 10, 2015 at 1:41 PM

Wait, was Markham waiting for McWatters' bus, a later bus on same route, or a bus on a separate route (Beckley, say)? How far was the bus stop from Tippit crime scene? I wonder if bus company was first approached by cops to find Tippit witnesses (the driver himself or anyone he picked up or dropped off near crime scene).

Ah yeah would have been nice to get a report from the drivers of the 11 Hampton and 10 Sunset buses whom stop there on Jefferson. Or the 22 Beckley driver!
Here we had Roberts say LHO was standing at a bus stop by the rooming house and we get a hand draw map!! WTH! what a pitty...

Beowulf, Although Mcwatters bus 30 Marsalis does get close to Helen at Marsalis and Jefferson, it would be the 10 and 11 buses that she would take.
We would need those route cards to see exact times, etc.

There are only three reasonable answers that explain how Stuart L. Reed managed to take photographs of these buses on Elm Street, one of which would later become part of the official getaway story, and then to be on hand outside the Texas Theater to photograph Oswald's arrest:

1.  A fluke of coincidence the likes of which you could not calculate the odds

2.  He was following Oswald

3.  These were not taken by Stuart L. Reed

There is absolutely no other way to explain this.

Wouldn't you just believe that the FBI made a decision that many of Reed's photographs that he took that day in Dallas weren't pertinent to the assassination.  Yeah, right.  Therefore they took copies of only ten photos.  

Do we have ten in the record?  By my estimate we have only eight Reed photographs.

How do we even know that these are Stuart Reed's photos?  The FBI didn't even speak to Reed.  Do we even know that Reed exists?  Where is the chain of evidence for these photographs?  What if these photographs were taken by James Powell?  

I guess what I'm saying is we are all very quick to identify these photographs as being taken by Stuart Reed when the fact is we know sod all aboiut them or him.

If we are to believe the information relayed to the FBI through his daughter Reed claimed there were photographs of the TSBD building in his collection.  Surely he can't have meant the one long shot from Elm St. showing about 1/10th of the building from three blocks away?  He said PHOTOGRAPHS

Lee Farley at February 11, 2015 at 8:52 AM

Redfern at February 11, 2015 at 7:40 AM

Lee,

I admit to accepting (perhaps blindly) the official story concerning Oswald residing at 1026 North Beckley. However, the arguments you have presented in recent years mean that there are nagging doubts. I shall have to plough through all the relevant information to re-evaluate just how reliable the Warren narrative is on this issue. There are certainly connections between 1026 and DPD personnel that have been brushed over down the years (as has the story concerning a visit by Ruby).

With regard to any plot to frame Oswald, how essential would it have been to have him residing in Oak Cliff (at least during week-days)?

An other angle that concerns me about Oswald never setting foot in 1026 is that it ramps up the number of people who'd have to lie. Again, I'd have to check, but from memory several people who stayed there described him in detail.

Just how reliable would they turn out to be? Earlene Roberts put her foot in it within days by blurting out the story of the police car at 1 pm. Both her and Gladys Johnson gave affidavits speaking of a further visit by DPD before Oswald was officially identified and well before police supposedly knew of the North Beckley address.

Nevertheless, given the lies elsewhere in the Warren version, nothing can be taken for granted.  

As a possible side-note, I am convinced Oswald changed his trousers. As for his shirt, it is possible he changed this too - he had one that was similar in appearance.

 

Returning to the getaway, the angle that struck me about McWatters was this exchange:

 

Mr. BALL - What did they tell you?

Mr. McWATTERS - Well, they told me that they had a transfer that I had issued that was cut for Lamar Street at 1 o'clock, and they wanted to know if I knew anything about it. And I, after I looked at the transfer and my punch, said yes, that is the transfer I issued because it had my punch mark on it.

I don't believe anyone other than the bus driver would have been able to deduce the transfer was punched at Lamar Street.

Certain officers within DPD seemed absolutely positive about this evidence and it was sent to Washington in the early hours. If we are to believe Jesse Curry's words on TV, he wasn't apprised of this information until well into the Saturday.

Larry Crafard is obviously worthy of several threads to himself. While it suited the Warren lawyers to cover up any role he had in the assassination, the sheer length of his testimony raises eyebrows. What on earth was that all about?

If any of us can crack the 1026 North Beckley nut we can all pack up and go home because it will be job done, Redfern.

There is absolutley no credible evidence that Lee Harvey Oswald ever lived at that house other than the small box of stuff that law enforcement pulled out of it. Evidence that could have very easily been swapped out with the person's stuff that was actually living there. Why were Hubert and Griffin so convinced that Larry Crafard might have been in William Whaley's cab? I'm sure they didn't pull it out of their backside. In the staff memo they produced, and it wasn't the first they produced that named Larry Crafard as a possible suspect, they link Whaley's knowledge of Ruby together with their own knowledge that Crafard had been mistaken for Oswald by a couple of dozen people. These men weren't idiots and neither were their superiors up the chain of command. They knew the bus ride was bogus and they knew the taxi ride was bogus and they had a handle on the best fit alternative that did fit the evidence they were reviewing. Not one lead concerning the suspicions they raised was followed up. None of the information they said they wanted from Bledsoe, Roberts, Whaley, and McWatters was collected either through interview or testimony. These junior staff lawyers knew in March 1964 what we now know a half a century later. Their work counted for nought because the seniors used their info to make sure how to continue covering shit up.

EDIT: Actually Griffin was as much of a bullshitter as the rest of them because I've just thought on that he was part of the crew that interviewed Earl RUBY and, after writing the staff memo with Hubert, actually delivered some of the WORST questioning that exists in the entire testimony record. Stuff like this:

Mr. GRIFFIN. How about Larry Crafard, did you pay him any money?

Mr. RUBY. Larry Crafard, I think we just gave him a few dollars, $5 maybe because he was broke when he was living on the road, he didn’t have a dime, so I think I gave him some money.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Did Larry incidentally contact you any time while you were in Detroit?

Mr. RUBY. No, no; I wish he would have, because he hitchhiked all the way down there, and I was driving at the same time, but he didn’t know I lived there, and we--

Mr. GRIFFIN. How was he notified to come to the trial?

Mr. RUBY. I don’t know. If I remember correctly he came on his own. He just thought that when all this came out about, you know, Jack getting him to take that picture of Earl Warren, he had the camera or something, I forgot the full details myself, but he is the one who took the picture, right, if I am not mistaken, and he just thought he should come down to help Jack as much as he possibly could. Could I go a little further?

Mr. GRIFFIN. I don’t really want to pry into this unless this is something you care to reveal.

Mr. RUBY. The most important thing is coming up now; I mean one of the most important things.

Mr. GRIFFIN. All right. I do want to reflect this -- that I don’t want to push you into saying things, talking about subjects that you would rather not talk about, and I realize that this is one of them.

I mean, WTF?  You really couldn't make this shit up could you?

My major issue when trying to make sense of this case is the enormity of it. Each segment that you feel you have a handle on suddenly bears a relationship with something else that exists in the record and the segment suddenly balloons. For instance, Mr. and Mrs. Johnson, the owners of 1026 North Beckley, are dodgy as fuck. My research into the Marion Meharg story leads into a series of nuisance phone calls that began plaguing the property in the months after the assassination. Soon after these phone calls Earlene Roberts left her employment there. The caller was asking about a David Miller who, the caller claimed, lived there prior to the assassination and was "Oswalds' friend." Arthur Johnson was overheard talking about this with someone in a coffee shop and was specifically asking the person he was with whether he had ever heard of a David LEON Miller. When the FBI interviewed Johnson he claimed this conversation never took place. Interestingly, David Miller was a pseudonym for David Yaras. The phone calls were put down to a bitterly jealous and somewhat obsessive Marion Meharg who was estranged from his wife and sons after she left him for someone called David Miller whom she married. No interview with Mrs. Miller exists but the FBI did interview her mother who painted Meharg as a deranged lunatic. Coincidently, the mother's name was Bernice CLICK. By another coincidence the neighbours of Arthur and Gladys Johsons were called the Millers. NEVER INTERVIEWED. Not even interviewed when it came to finding out which neighbour had been overheard having a conversation about Jack Ruby parking on their driveway when he went to visit Oswald at the 1026 property.

If an Oswald was living at 1026 North Beckley then it wasn't our Lee Oswald and it certainly wasn't a CIA doppelganger raised from birth to be an Oswald twin. It was someone simply pretending to be him and this is where, I believe, Larry Crafard comes in. It's no coincidence that Jack Ruby met with Bertha Cheek, Earlene Roberts sister, on November 18th, 1963.

I'll say one thing about some of the people who stayed at 1026 North Beckley and were interviewed. They should have gotten their stories straight before trying to convince us about Oswald's residence there. I will not accept that two Mr. LEEs were living at that property at the same time - Mr. O. H. Lee and Mr. H. (LEON) Lee. I do not accept Mr. Herbert Leon Lee's story about sharing a room with James Watson because when James Watson was interviewed he never mentions Mr. Herbert Leon Lee. Mr Herbert Leon Lee says he doesn't remember Lee Oswald living there but that James Watson might and try as I might, I have a really hard time believing that Mr. Herbert Leon Lee left being a floor layer after 30 years to become a Police Officer.

There is a much bigger story to 1026 North Beckley and we haven't yet uncovered it.

You are right about how the police knew it was a transfer from LAMAR. They wouldn't. But as we see in the McWatters testimony it appears that the DPD were telling him what happened rather than the other way around.

A 1956 Station Wagon was owned by Mildred Meharg.;)
This is a smoking gun right here. Who would have called this in?



Is it BERNIECE OR BERNICE?

Weisberg Collection
FR 4-0072 Dallas: Mrs. Berniece Click, 203 Brodie.    (address is off South Beckley)
and
FE 7-5185 Dallas: Mrs. B. K. (Bernice) Click, 905 Barnett St. (Meharg caper).

FBI documnet gives her address as MRS. BERNICE CLICK ~ 905 Barnett

Page 17 is the best!
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/FBI%20Records%20Files/105-82555/105-82555%20Section%20071/71c.pdf

Mabel Berniece Click  Born on 10 Mar 1899. Mabel Berniece married Walter Raymond McClellan. She passed away on 11 Mar 1992 in Elkhart, Indiana, USA.

Mildred was married to Marion Meharg
And remarried David Miller
She married to a Jenkins as her daughters are of that name.

Did Mildred have a brother? A Darrell or something like Daryl?

Found a Royce Darrell Click in Harris Tx married Linda Marie Achten could be from '60's.

And these living Darrell Clicks
864-939-2470 - Darrell Click, Hurtsdale Rd, Clinton, South Carolina

218-212-6124 - Darrell Click, SE 8th St, Grand Rapids, Minnesota

910-382-4588 - Darrell Click, State Rd 1142, Jacksonville, North Carolina

203-384-5947 - Darrell Click, Standish St, Bridgeport, Connecticut

417-300-0783 - Darrell Click, N Rock Island Ave, Springfield, Missouri


And deceased Click's

Darrell Click  Born: Jun 14, 1950 Deceased: Sep 5, 1997 Location: Amarillo, TX   .....(TOO YOUNG IN '63)

William Click   Born: Oct 26, 1884   Deceased: Nov, 1967  Location: Dallas, TX   (An old cabbie with middle/nickname of Darrell maybe?):)

This made me do adouble take, though not relavent.

LANSING - Mrs. Joyce Rash Bledsoe, 59, the wife of Darrell Click Bledsoe, died Wednesday at Forsyth Memorial Hospital.

Okay if we find Darrell Click we have made history!!


Here is the other mystery name, J A Brourantus

http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth339517/m1/7/

Hasan Yusuf at February 13, 2015 at 2:19 PM

So, just thinking out loud, I don't consider any portion of the authorized version of the TT charade to require LHO being "lured" to the place.

As much as I respect your opinions Terry, I'm afraid I can't agree with you here. The revolver Oswald allegedly had in his possession inside the Theater was by all likelihood the one used to kill Tippit. However, we have very good reason to believe that he actually didn't have it with him. When taken into account with the evidence that a wallet was discarded within the vicinity of the Tippit murder scene containing ID for Oswald and Hidell (when Oswald's wallet was inside his pants pocket), this indicates that he was framed. In order for that to happen, I think he had to be lured to the Theater. I mean, the conspirators surely wouldn't have depended on luck. Of course, I can't prove any of this, but I firmly believe that this is what the evidence indicates.

 

I think Oswald was "lured" to the shoestore by Brewer.
I bet he called and said he had a shoe sale going on. I mean Brewer had to pay for that new car somehow, right.
But when Oswald came by and saw the high prices through the window he freaked out running away from Brewer and hiding in the Theater.
Oswald was heard as they dragged him away saying that yes yes I killed whom ever you say just get me away from that shoe salesman, or words to that effect. Witnesses at the scene saw several others hiding in the balcony from Brewer but they were escorted out the back and driven downtown where the real deals on classic footwear are and you can get a shoppers transfer even if you didn't ride a bus!

Beowulf at February 12, 2015 at 2:53 PM

I'm curious, could have Oswald have taken bus directly to TT? Did Marsalis bus (McWatters's bus presumably) or the Beckley bus have a stop near Texas Theatre? It'd certainly tie up loose ends if Oswald was given a ride from Dealey Plaza to TT by Officer Tippit but I don't think the timing works (Tippit was seen, alone, in the Gloco gas station parking lot at 12:40).

I think Oswald was involved in something, he didn't really act like an innocent man would. Of course it could be he wasn't involved in the assassination but was involved in gun running, drug smuggling or something equally felonious that a murder investigation might stumble over. Once he had a lawyer he would have been advised that coming clean might land him jail for a few years but would save him from the electric chair. Then again maybe he was the lookout whose job was to get the shooting team on and off the elevator without a fuss. There's no telling.

Beowulf asking questions like that will never get you a seat on the Warren Commission.
I mean who would think that LHO may have gone by way of bus....oh wait the cops thought he did go as far as the beckley rooming house by bus at least initially.
Then he was Whaley'd back in time to Beckley , then "Headed" to Jefferson and Marsalis or Transfer Point 7 and perhaps would catch the Ramona inbound bus.
But hey we figured all that nonsense out.

Oswald could have taken a Hampton or Sunset bus from Downtown to the TT.
He would have to transfer, if on the Marsalis bus at Jefferson. Or just walk to the TT from Jefferson and Marsalis after getting off a bus.

But the only bus that may have been on time was the bus infront of Cecils, which was perhaps the Beckley bus. Or vice versa.

So no easy answer how we get LHO to the TT by bus and a transfer on him for the Lakewood/Marsalis.

I think the Gloco parking lot Tippit sighting has problems. He is not supposed to be in that area at 12:40, everyone of the employees changed their story.
And if anyone is running guns or drugs it would be a cop with connections.

If it was LHO's job to secure elevators for the hit team, he did a poor job. Although whom could secure both elevators at the time of the assassination? 
I doubt anyone had to escape since that rifle was not fired from that window. If they did escape it had to be on the West elevator and timed to just miss Truly and Baker.

I always though it odd the 3 boys hid in the book bins so that when Baker ran by the only thing that was visible was his helmet.
Seems the boys were right there then at the perfect moment to see whom went down in the west elevator.
They mentioned nothing! Was it Dougherty just working away? Was it a fellow whom was with the Tan Jaket Man?
Were they planting evidence or actually firing weapons? Were there firecrackers thrown from the building? Maybe?
But did Oswald ride the bus and go to the movies?
We might be able to say no he did get a ride, Paine was at dentist with daughter and was home when DPD arrived so she was fully capable of making a stop to drive LHO to TT or rooming house.
It is 3 miles by foot to Beckley then about another mile to TT.  4-5 miles is walkable in an hour.

From Mark Lane Testimony,

The first statement made by Mr. Wade in reference to the taxi driver who he alleged---he, Wade, alleged took Oswald generally from this scene, indicated that the driver's name was Daryl Click.

Now, that statement was not made in the first hours of the arrest. That statement was not made until after Chief Curry had announced to the press in Dallas, on that day, November 24th that the case was closed, there would be no further investigation--Oswald was the assassin, he had acted alone, he was then dead. And as a result of the change in policy, to reopen the case and have Mr. Wade assume a position in front of the radio and television microphones and cameras of the Nation, on that evening November 24, Mr. Wade then presented what he said was the evidence "for you piece by piece." And part of the evidence which he had secured was the proof that a taxi driver named Daryl Click drove Oswald roughly from the scene to his home, to Oswald's home.

When I was in Dallas--I suppose this was on January 2d, my first trip there in reference to this matter--I spoke with a Mr. Roseboro of the Teamsters Union--they have organized the taxi drivers in Dallas--and asked him if he knew--if he could give me any information about a Daryl Click. He said he did not have the name in his files. but Texas being a right-to-work law State, it is possible, he said, that Mr. Click was a driver but not a member of that union. He referred me to the personnel department of the City Transportation Co., which he told ,he was the one company monopoly running all the taxis in Dallas.

I spoke with the City Transportation Co. personnel office, Mr. Pott, as I recalled, who checked the records, and indicated to me that there was no Daryl Click who drove a taxi in Dallas.

Some time after Mr. Wade stated that Daryl Click was the taxi driver, he then stated that a person by the name of William Whaley was the taxi driver who took Oswald from the scene after he left the bus to his home.

And then, hold your gum, this dooozey!

I would refer you to his story by Hugh Ainsworth in the Dallas Morning News published during the first week after the assassination. Hugh Ainsworth and Larry Grove published on November 28 in the Dallas Morning News--this is headed "Oswald Planned To Ride By Scene"--in which there are statements from the busdriver that--named C. J. McWatters, in which Mr. McWatters indicates that Oswald entered the bus at Elm and Griffin, and further indicates that the bus was going to go seven blocks further west and turn at Houston Street, exactly the scene of the assassination, or at least the scene of the Texas Book Depository. So Oswald traveled somehow some seven blocks in order to secure a bus which is going to take him back to the place that he left.

Now, although I have talked to Mr. Ainsworth, and he tells me that the story is absolutely correct, and he questioned Mr. McWatters quite thoroughly, and he will so testify, I believe, if he is asked--Mr. Ainsworth will--and the affidavit which Mr. McWatters signed, or which the busdriver signed, he does not state that Oswald walked seven blocks and was going to get on a bus which was going to take him back. Indeed, he states that he picked him up about Elm and Houston Street, at the Book Depository Building. But the busdriver indicates that that story in his affidavit is not true. He indicated that after the affidavit was drawn and signed by him.

Mr. RANKIN. What did you say was not true, Mr. Lane--which part of it?

Mr. LANE. The affidavit. Mr. McWatters indicates that the affidavit in which-- let me start that again.

There is an affidavit from the busdriver, which I am sure you have, which shows that according to his statement Oswald came into the bus at Elm and Houston Street. However, the busdriver since that time has indicated that Oswald came into the bus seven blocks from Elm and Houston Street, and had entered a bus which was going to take him to Elm and Houston Street, Elm and Houston Street of course is the location of the Book Depository Building.

Mr. RANKIN. Now, when you say since that time he has indicated that, you mean to you or to someone else?

Mr. LANE. To those two reporters for the Dallas Morning News with whom I discussed--one of them--I discussed this specifically. And he said that every word in that story is absolutely accurate, that he went to see the busdriver, and had a prolonged interview with him, and went over this in great detail with him. I think these two reporters will testify as to what the busdriver told them in their interview with him.

Mr. RANKIN. But they have not published this later story that you are telling about.

Mr. LANE. Yes, they have. That is the date that I gave you. The Dallas Morning News, on Thursday, November 28, under the headline. "Oswald Planned To Ride By Scene".

Mr. RANKIN. Do you want to leave that with us?  

Mr. LANE. I wonder if copies can be made of everything.

Mr. RANKIN. Yes.

Mr. LANE. Then I will be happy to leave it.

Mr. RANKIN. The story you were just referring to in the Dallas Morning News is Commission Exhibit 343.

(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 343 for identification and received in evidence.)

Mark Lane had a lot of evidence the DPD, Curry and Wade wanted to go away.

After Ruby had killed Oswald, D.A. Wade made a statement about Oswald’s movements following the assassination. He explained that Oswald had taken a bus, but he described the point at which Oswald had entered the vehicle as seven blocks away from the point located by the bus driver in his affidavit. Oswald, Wade continued, then took a taxi driven by a Daryll Click, who had signed an affidavit. An inquiry at the City Transportation Company revealed that no such taxi driver had ever existed in Dallas. Presented with this evidence, Wade altered the driver’s name to William Whaley. The driver’s log book showed that a man answering Oswald’s description had been picked up at 12:30. The President was shot at 12:31. D.A. Wade made no mention of this. Wade has been D.A. in Dallas for 14 years and before that was an F.B.I. agent. How does a District Attorney of Wade’s great experience account for all the extraordinary changes in evidence and testimony which he has announced during the Oswald case? ~16 Questions on the Assassination By Bertrand Russell


Marion Meharg' sister.

Loretta Christine Avery (born Meharg), 1919-2001

Loretta Christine Avery (born Meharg) was born on month day 1919, at birth place, Texas, to John Benjamie Meharg and Nancy (Nannie) Ann Meharg (born Counts).

John was born on January 14 1877, in Athens Texas, United States.

Nancy was born on June 19 1885, in Hunt County, Texas, United States.

Loretta had 3 siblings: Annie Bea Burns (born Meharg) and 2 other siblings.

Loretta married James M Avery on month day 1940, at age 21 at marriage place, Texas.

James was born on June 30 1919, in Arkansas.

They had 2 children.

Loretta lived in 1935, at address.

Loretta passed away on month day 2001, at age 82 at death place, Texas.

Ohh power just went out for a second. better post this while I can.

I think Oswald was "lured" to the shoestore by Brewer.

I bet he called and said he had a shoe sale going on. I mean Brewer had to pay for that new car somehow, right.

But when Oswald came by and saw the high prices through the window he freaked out running away from Brewer and hiding in the Theater.

Oswald was heard as they dragged him away saying that yes yes I killed whom ever you say just get me away from that shoe salesman, or words to that effect. Witnesses at the scene saw several others hiding in the balcony from Brewer but they were escorted out the back and driven downtown where the real deals on classic footwear are and you can get a shoppers transfer even if you didn't ride a bus!

I contend that what you posit is much more feasible than what the Warren Commission tried to stuff down our throats