REOPEN KENNEDY CASE

Yes it was Lee,

Miller has a working phone and if you pm me some questions I can try and get some answers, or do you want to call?

For everyone not familiar with Marion or David,
http://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t585-the-case-of-the-nuisance-phone-calls-redux

On December 2nd, 1963, FBI Special Agent Alfred C. Ellington received a phone call. The caller, who allegedly didn’t give his name, claimed that on the afternoon of November 22nd, 1963, within minutes of the assassination of the President, he “…observed a man come out of the Texas School Book Depository building, jump off the loading dock…run across Houston Street and get into a 1956 green and white Chevrolet station wagon [and] that he further observed the license number on this vehicle and believes the first four digits were PW 17.”

The caller’s name was Marion Meharg and the call would become a long forgotten but incredibly strange by-story to the events of November 22nd, 1963.

Marion B. Meharg was born in Terrell, Texas, on the 7th of April 1912 and was divorced from a woman named Mildred. The 51 year old had two children with her, both boys, as well as two step-daughters and the separation by all accounts was a messy one. Marion Meharg wanted custody of his boys and in November 1963 was calling his ex-mother-in-law to try and establish where his children were. Mildred Meharg had remarried in September, 1963, to a man named David Leon Miller.

Mildred’s mother when interviewed by the FBI painted a very unfavourable picture of Meharg. The mother of Mildred Meharg was called Mrs. B. K. (Bernice) Click. A surname that will strongly resonate with seasoned JFK researchers and is a curiosity that I personally find quite intriguing. Click told authorities that Meharg had threatened her daughter and had threatened to kill himself. The FBI immediately took Mrs. Click at her word and put Meharg down as a suicide risk with no further investigation into these threats needed.

Bernice and Bo share any relations?

Ed Ledoux at December 30, 2015 at 3:13 AM

Here is Cecil and "Cecil?"

Wow...i'm confused i guess. I thought the guy in the middle was supposed to be Scroggins? Are you saying they are the same person "Cecil" is just a manicured version of Scroggins?! 

Scoggings in the middle that is correct, I think Lee pointed this out earlier this month

Ed Ledoux at December 30, 2015 at 5:25 AM

Yes it was Lee,

Miller has a working phone and if you pm me some questions I can try and get some answers, or do you want to call?

For everyone not familiar with Marion or David,
http://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t585-the-case-of-the-nuisance-phone-calls-redux

On December 2nd, 1963, FBI Special Agent Alfred C. Ellington received a phone call. The caller, who allegedly didn’t give his name, claimed that on the afternoon of November 22nd, 1963, within minutes of the assassination of the President, he “…observed a man come out of the Texas School Book Depository building, jump off the loading dock…run across Houston Street and get into a 1956 green and white Chevrolet station wagon [and] that he further observed the license number on this vehicle and believes the first four digits were PW 17.”

The caller’s name was Marion Meharg and the call would become a long forgotten but incredibly strange by-story to the events of November 22nd, 1963.

Marion B. Meharg was born in Terrell, Texas, on the 7th of April 1912 and was divorced from a woman named Mildred. The 51 year old had two children with her, both boys, as well as two step-daughters and the separation by all accounts was a messy one. Marion Meharg wanted custody of his boys and in November 1963 was calling his ex-mother-in-law to try and establish where his children were. Mildred Meharg had remarried in September, 1963, to a man named David Leon Miller.

Mildred’s mother when interviewed by the FBI painted a very unfavourable picture of Meharg. The mother of Mildred Meharg was called Mrs. B. K. (Bernice) Click. A surname that will strongly resonate with seasoned JFK researchers and is a curiosity that I personally find quite intriguing. Click told authorities that Meharg had threatened her daughter and had threatened to kill himself. The FBI immediately took Mrs. Click at her word and put Meharg down as a suicide risk with no further investigation into these threats needed.

Bernice and Bo share any relations?

This is all new to me and absolutely fascinating!   Just started reading a little bit of the link you posted and it gave me goosebumps! This is worthy of a major dig! 

I have to go...but here's my contribution to start it out. 1940 Census : Bernice Click was  born in 1901, married a Blache (sic) K. Click  and her daughter Mildred was born in in 1924. According to the 1930 census her husband's name was "Blake" not "Blache". 

Bernices full name was MILDRED Bernice Click - born 1/10/1901, d. 6/6/86. 

https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22bernice%20k%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Aclick~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Atexas~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1901-1901~%20%2Bother_givenname%3AMildred~" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">First 3 hits on this page

Well this pisses me off! I couldn't get the links for the '30 or '40 census to post so  i edited and took them out then put in the link for the entire page ... same thing! The link is a mess and if you click on it it's dead. What's up with the links on this site?! 

Ok... here is Mildred BERNICE Click's findagrave....and i'll be damned... her husband's name was "Blachley"! Not Blake! Never heard of such a name.  I just assumed  Blachley was a transcription error. Only in Texas would you find someone named "Blachley"! LOL! Here's his findagrave complete with gravemarker with "Blachley" on it! 

Great stuff Linda!
Yeah don't use the link option, its worthless. Just post the url's.
Mildred and Blachley Click. Got it!

Yep its an interesting set of coincindences and turns with the Wade press conference, the air crash, the Meharg and Miller bits, Bo Click, etc, etc.  

Blachley was likely a past relatives name (Surname?) they gave to him as a first name,
http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/BLACHLEY


The picture of Scoggins in the middle of Cecil pics was to show the difference.
The I Due Kennedy movie said cab driver and bus driver, if you have any Italian language skills watch the movie and you will hear the two described as Bus and Cab drivers. I took french but its similar enough to make out autobus = bus.
Since both Whaley and Scogins were cabbies I found it odd they were depicted as the Cab and Bus driver in the film.

Italians correct me please if I am incorrect.

Linda Giovanna Zambanini at December 30, 2015 at 8:51 AM

Ed Ledoux at December 30, 2015 at 3:13 AM

Here is Cecil and "Cecil?"

Wow...i'm confused i guess. I thought the guy in the middle was supposed to be Scroggins? Are you saying they are the same person "Cecil" is just a manicured version of Scroggins?! 

Nelson Benton had this to say @ 13:55

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4A3cF2-52A&index=4&list=PLPpNRGOLAlsdIARgRhMsH6svPBWWwCGGh

Un-named presumably a bus and cab driver.... exactly like the I Due Kennedy film states...albeit in Italian.

Looks like two flipping cabbies to me, actually Whaley looks more of a clean public transport driver of a bus (like we see Cecil looking like for his starring roll in the later CBS videos, where as the other feller (Scoggins) is a private fare kinda looking cabbie! WTH?

The reporters are GUESSING these two are a cab and bus driver because that is the story from Oswald? Fritz? Curry..nope Curry was a Negro in a Station Wagon guy, he didn't get onboard the bus cab junk till after he was pressured by the FBI and Hoover to can any talk of conspiracy.
So the Bus and Cab rides are manufacted.
Actually easy to do in Dallas as everyone whom actually knew Oswald was distancing themselves from him, but complete loons were saying they rode buses with him, (Mary Hollies), and also lived with him (Mary Bledsoe), gave him a ride, (Yates) etc.

Ed Ledoux at December 31, 2015 at 12:50 AM

Great stuff Linda!
Yeah don't use the link option, its worthless. Just post the url's.
Mildred and Blachley Click. Got it!

Yep its an interesting set of coincindences and turns with the Wade press conference, the air crash, the Meharg and Miller bits, Bo Click, etc, etc.  

Blachley was likely a past relatives name (Surname?) they gave to him as a first name,
http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/BLACHLEY


The picture of Scoggins in the middle of Cecil pics was to show the difference.
The I Due Kennedy movie said cab driver and bus driver, if you have any Italian language skills watch the movie and you will hear the two described as Bus and Cab drivers. I took french but its similar enough to make out autobus = bus.
Since both Whaley and Scogins were cabbies I found it odd they were depicted as the Cab and Bus driver in the film.

Italians correct me please if I am incorrect.

Thank's Ed! Haven't had time to work on it snce...so much going on rt now!

Ah!  I see - you had me confused by that triptych!  I was looking and looking trying to see if one could be the cleaned up version of the other! LOL! 

Yes, i speak and understand pretty fluently and had no problem with the video with no subtitles. I took Italian in college - then returned to Middlebury for their Immersion summer session a couple of decades later. Absolutely fantastic course! Totally rewired my brain! I see why Ruth Paine took Russian there. I was totally creeped out when i learned she had studied there though - glad i didn't know it at the time! Btw... when i was there there were like 200 FBI agents in the immersion Spanish summer program- you could spot them around campus a mile away - same haircuts and sunglasses! 

Ciao! 

Wow!~ Good to know Linda!!
Didn't Ruth also take the summer course for her Russian?
Is there any records you as an alumni could get, like the instructors name, other students in that course, etc. 


"Ruth had been studying Russian since 1957 — at Berlitz, on phonograph records, in summer classes at Penn and at Middlebury — and in February of 1963 Everett Glover, with whom she'd sung madrigals in Dallas, invited her to a get-together at his home. Among his guests, he told her, would be a young American who'd spent time in the U.S.S.R., and his Soviet wife, offering Ruth the chance to converse in Russian." -Thomas Mallon. Excerpted from the book Mrs. Paine's Garage

There has been a long-standing myth at the college: in halcyon summer days on an idyllic campus, chatter in Portuguese, Chinese, Arabic, Spanish twirl in the open air like dandelion seeds dance across campus. Students fill the campus with passion and curiosity for a language, entering a new world but still remembering an old-aged rumor. In the corner of their eyes, they are on the lookout for tall men in black shades, trailing behind their combat boots, suspicious that they might disappear into revolving bookshelves in Axinn—yes, they are on the staking out the mythical FBI and CIA recruiters.

“It is true that the CIA and FBI have recruited at Middlebury,” Associate Director of Career Services Tim Mosehauer said. “They are interested in students for their language skills, including Arabic, Russian and Chinese — what you would call critical languages.”

http://middleburycampus.com/article/globalizing-world-threatens-to-change-language-school/

Military, too

http://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/undercover-campus/Content?oid=2129844

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C05294689- iAP-PR-O\/EO-FOR RELEASE-Ill '![)A:r~: _Q2 -1_1-~009__ .__ THE CIA AND ACADEME(b)( 1 ) (b)(2)(b)(3) Close ties between the Central Intelligence Agency and American colleges and universities haveexisted since the birth of the Agency in 1947. The bonds between national intelligence and theacademic world actually predate the Agency, for William J. Donovan, President Roosevelt'sCoordinator of Information, established a research team of distinguished academicians to assist him in1941. Donovan proposed a novel idea: have the information that he was collecting, mostly from themilitary services and the Department of State, analyzed not only by the intelligence componentswithin the War and Navy Departments but by his team of "scholars, economists, psychologists,technicians, and students of finance." To head his research group, Donovan chose James PhinneyBaxter, president of Williams College and a noted specialist in American diplomatic history.Following the attack on Pearl Harbor, the Research and Analysis Branch of what became the Office ofStrategic Services (OSS) rapidly expanded. After Baxter's departure in 1942, William 1.. Langer, thedistinguishcd historian from Harvard, took over direction of the branch and remained in that post untildisestablishment of OSS in late 1945.While many of the scholars who had participated in the analytic part of OSS returned to theircampuses after the war, some remained with the government. Those who had been in the Research andAnalysis Branch were transferred to the State Department. Then, as the Central Intelligence Groupand, after 1947, the Central Intelligence Agcncy grew in size and responsibility, a number ofacademicians who had served with OSS returned as analysts in the new Office of Research andEvaluation.During the great expansion of CIA following the outbreak of the Korean War in 1950, Ageneyre cruiters appeared in significant numbers on academic campuses across the nation. Also in 1950, theDirector of Central Intelligence, General Walter Bedell Smith, called upon William Langer to return toWashington to organize the new Offiee of National Estimates (ONE). This office had seven boardmembers, including four historians and an economist drawn from the ranks of academe, * a combatcommander, and a lawyer. One of the historians, Shem1an Kent, succeeded Langer as Director ofONE in 1952 when Langer again returned to Harvard. At roughly the same time, the noted economistat the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Max Millikan, was brought to Washington to organizethe economic intelligence effol1 in the newly created Office of Research and Repol1s.

 As a large number of the members ofOSS and the early recruits to CIA came from prestigious privateschools in the Northeast and the Far West, with some representation from the large Midwesternuniversities 

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:-jF5dwkTb8oJ:www.nationalsecuritylaw.org/files/received/CIA/Unknown-CIA_and_Academe.pdf+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au

Ed Ledoux at December 30, 2015 at 5:25 AM

Yes it was Lee,

Miller has a working phone and if you pm me some questions I can try and get some answers, or do you want to call?

For everyone not familiar with Marion or David,
http://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t585-the-case-of-the-nuisance-phone-calls-redux

On December 2nd, 1963, FBI Special Agent Alfred C. Ellington received a phone call. The caller, who allegedly didn’t give his name, claimed that on the afternoon of November 22nd, 1963, within minutes of the assassination of the President, he “…observed a man come out of the Texas School Book Depository building, jump off the loading dock…run across Houston Street and get into a 1956 green and white Chevrolet station wagon [and] that he further observed the license number on this vehicle and believes the first four digits were PW 17.”

The caller’s name was Marion Meharg and the call would become a long forgotten but incredibly strange by-story to the events of November 22nd, 1963.

Marion B. Meharg was born in Terrell, Texas, on the 7th of April 1912 and was divorced from a woman named Mildred. The 51 year old had two children with her, both boys, as well as two step-daughters and the separation by all accounts was a messy one. Marion Meharg wanted custody of his boys and in November 1963 was calling his ex-mother-in-law to try and establish where his children were. Mildred Meharg had remarried in September, 1963, to a man named David Leon Miller.

Mildred’s mother when interviewed by the FBI painted a very unfavourable picture of Meharg. The mother of Mildred Meharg was called Mrs. B. K. (Bernice) Click. A surname that will strongly resonate with seasoned JFK researchers and is a curiosity that I personally find quite intriguing. Click told authorities that Meharg had threatened her daughter and had threatened to kill himself. The FBI immediately took Mrs. Click at her word and put Meharg down as a suicide risk with no further investigation into these threats needed.

Bernice and Bo share any relations?

Let me read over my posts, Ed.  I have lots of questions but I'll see if I can narrow them down to try and get to the key ones.

Only just seen your post because I haven't been looking at the forum over the last few days but give me the rest of the day and I'll PM my thoughts.

Cheers, mate

Lee

Thanks Lee!

10 or so pages of docs at MF

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=95956&search=ochus_campbell#relPageId=178&tab=page

Yes and I have never been able to find Train Number 24, in relation to this bus.

What was the signifigance of 433 having 24 displayed.

I called DART.

The nice lady explained they still display train numbers on the buses. so you can plan which bus to take to meet a certain train and the shedule and maps show the train directions.

Now if someone can dig out a schedule or map for trains 1963 Dallas we can see which train the 'suitcase' lady was trying to meet.
This was avoided by the Warren Commission.
You would think an Oswald witness and bus rider would be found by the FBI. Especially given the description, train number 24 and time/date etc....should have been a cake walk for FBI to track her down and she what she recalled.
Seems she would have coroborated Bledsoe if found, something the Warren Commission was not intent on having the FBI investigate, or the FBI worried about finding her.
Thus use of Bledsoe without even attempting to locate this woman is a continuing misrepresentation, a lie by omission.

Ozzie's ticket from Mary ferrell, right cick and open in new tab, large scan

The 'crease' and the fold.

Stop the presses John Armstrong was correct about one piece of evidence!

Well actually the archivist he had check the ticket was correct.
I asked and was told the ticket had no visible creasing or folds.
That picture does show an angled fold.
The ticket needs pulled at NARA and scanned, and I need to call back to ask why I was told the ticket was not damaged.

Are the two punch marks odd to anyone...?

Lee may have used a bus to get to Oak Cliff, having a transfer was not illegal and seeing he did not shoot anyone this is actually exculpatory in nature, but I'm no Gerry Spence....

And if you account for a man getting on the bus at the end of Elm, per McWatters, we may have a transfer issued...where, at the scene where McWatters witnessed the police surrounding the library.
McWatters bus would be stopped there too!

If were on that damn bus I'd have asked for a transfer too with all that excitement in a few miles. 

I still believe it was a plant and not so good a job, and the ticket has no prints from LHO.
Want to petition the goverment to allow a touch DNA study?

What does a ticket McWatters did not give to Lee Oswald prove?
Proves they kept him at the police station for a very long night.

Taxi ride was destroyed before it left the curb.
But we are to believe a ticket adds guilt to an innocent man.

Oswald is innocent and took public transportation often.
Murderers and those on the lamb don't need transfers.... the whole idea is ridiculous.

But I'm no Gerry Spence...and neither is Armstrong, but he is a close second for ineffective representation!