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Ed Ledoux
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How is Tracy D Click directly or indirectly involved in the death of JFK for the city to apply this rule to investigators/press and prevent coping Death Certs etc.?
Could it be that he was the Click that gave a Lee Oswald a ride?

Recall that Click had a nickname of Bo, and the Teamsters referred Hal Verb to Pott(s) at Dallas Transit Co.
Why would Roseboro of the Teamsters not save Hal the trip?
Seems the Teamsters would know whom their members are.
Why did not Roseboro say if there was a teamster by the name of Click, and send Hal to that shop?
Why send Hal on a wild goose chase at DTC

Something stinks...

December 28, 2015 at 6:14 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Linda Giovanna Zambanini
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Greg at December 28, 2015 at 5:15 AM

It seems someone back ion '67 was burrowing in to the plane death of Tracy D Click and the city didn't like it.

Dallas - Times Herald says the Dallas Bureau of Vital Statistics, by order of the Texas Health Department and the Secret Service, has cut off access to routine public records on the deaths of principals in the assassination of President Kennedy.

City attorney Alex Bickley said restrictions been in effect some time and include the press. Rule is interpreted to include persons now dead and only indirectly involved in events of the assassination.

State health commissioner J. E. Peavy said in Austin rule was made to preclude anyone duplicating death certificates. "Legitimate press" might be allowed to see and copy, but "if for speculation on events" each case would be judged on merits. AP ldn 225acs

See Click plane crash 3/12/67.

3/12/67 Curious press treatment of plane crash in bad weather at Jefferson City, MO, which killed four Dallas businessmen, including one Tracy D. Click, of Irving. AP carried only the original plane crash story. Dallas Morning News carried no story at all [although it carried other plane crashes, even one abroad, but did carry death notice in classified ad columns for one of the men, not Click. Dallas Morning News & AP

Dallas Times-Herald not checked, not available.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The above from a windows doc held in the Weisberg Collection.

Wow, Greg! That is some fascinating...and downright creepy... story! Sets off my alarm bells.  To think they could cut off public access to vital records like that except to "legitimate" media members and then only on a case by case basis! And "if for speculation on events" is broad and arbitrary - could be constued to apply to any research into the Kennedy assassination.   Ya, but if if you're Dan Rather or Hugh Aynesworth (or any other covert card carrying member of Operation Mockingbird), COME ON DOWN boys and get yer records so you can tell the public there's nothing to the story! Sounds completely unconstitutional. Too bad no one sued them at the time! And it is extremely suspicious that 4 local men from Dallas were killed in a small plane crash and yet it wasn't even covered by the Dallas press! Seems unheard of! That right there tells me there may be something fishy about Tracy "D." Click.  I'll do a genealogical search when i have time and see what i can come up with. But if  they deemed access to information about him so critical to suppress/censure that they were willing to go to that extent in '67, by now they could have digitally expunged his very existence. Btw...do you happen to have the link to the Wiesburg doc so i can bookmark or download it? 

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December 28, 2015 at 9:43 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Linda Giovanna Zambanini
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Ed Ledoux at December 28, 2015 at 6:14 AM

How is Tracy D Click directly or indirectly involved in the death of JFK for the city to apply this rule to investigators/press and prevent coping Death Certs etc.?
Could it be that he was the Click that gave a Lee Oswald a ride?

Recall that Click had a nickname of Bo, and the Teamsters referred Hal Verb to Pott(s) at Dallas Transit Co.
Why would Roseboro of the Teamsters not save Hal the trip?
Seems the Teamsters would know whom their members are.
Why did not Roseboro say if there was a teamster by the name of Click, and send Hal to that shop?
Why send Hal on a wild goose chase at DTC

Something stinks...

Ed, (Greg et al...)

"Bo" you say?! GOT HIM!!!

I got absolutely no hits for a Tracy D. Click or a Tracy Click on familysearch.org or findagrave, in MO, TX or the entire US who died in '66 or '67. 

I finally searched simply for T. Click on findagrave in Tx cemeteries...scrolled down the list and... BINGO!

His name was not "Tracy" but "Travy" - his father was a "Travy" also. He was 30 yrs old in '63. Married, Had several children.

Corp. Travy Delano "Bo" Click, USMC, Korea 

Photo from findagrave: 


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"This nation was founded by men of many nations and backgrounds. It was founded on the principle that all men are created equal, and that the rights of every man are diminished when the rights of one man are threatened.”    ~ JFK, Civil Rights Speech, 6/11/63

 

December 28, 2015 at 11:05 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Linda Giovanna Zambanini
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Ed Ledoux at December 28, 2015 at 6:14 AM

How is Tracy D Click directly or indirectly involved in the death of JFK for the city to apply this rule to investigators/press and prevent coping Death Certs etc.?
Could it be that he was the Click that gave a Lee Oswald a ride?

Recall that Click had a nickname of Bo, and the Teamsters referred Hal Verb to Pott(s) at Dallas Transit Co.
Why would Roseboro of the Teamsters not save Hal the trip?
Seems the Teamsters would know whom their members are.
Why did not Roseboro say if there was a teamster by the name of Click, and send Hal to that shop?
Why send Hal on a wild goose chase at DTC

Something stinks...

Ed, (Greg et al...)

"Bo" you say?! GOT HIM!!!

I got absolutely no hits for a Tracy D. Click or a Tracy Click on familysearch.org or findagrave, in MO, TX or the entire US who died in '66 or '67. 

I finally searched simply for T. Click on findagrave in Tx cemeteries...scrolled down the list and... BINGO!

His name was not "Tracy" but "Travy" - his father was a "Travy" also. He was 30 yrs old in '63. Married, Had several children.

Corp. Travy Delano "Bo" Click, USMC, Korea 

Photo from findagrave: 


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"This nation was founded by men of many nations and backgrounds. It was founded on the principle that all men are created equal, and that the rights of every man are diminished when the rights of one man are threatened.”    ~ JFK, Civil Rights Speech, 6/11/63

 

December 28, 2015 at 11:05 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Kick ass Linda!

Click Travy Delano 8-31-1933 Male, Mother; Helen Elizabeth Ballow  Father; Travy Melechi Click. Couty; Tarrant

DOH! Guess whom was in the VFW (recall talk about FBI using the VFW informants)

WELCOMING COMMirrEE—Tlie welcome mat wab out Satuiday as VFW Post 2494 held open hou.ie celebrating die first anniversary of their organization since the Post was reactivated. Friends called throughout the alternoon to itispect tiie attractive new quarters. Pictured are Travy Click, vice commander; DJ , Nesbitt, past commander; and Melvin Huff, Post Commander.--Photo by Davies.

This was the opening of the new post,

MAYOR SNIPS THE RIBBON--The new Post home of tlie local VFW 01 ganizauon was officall> opened Saturday afternoon. Post Commander Melvin Neif gave an inspirational de^licatory address, re»>alling the memorable dale of December 7, 1941. After prayer by the Post Chaplain, Mayor Paul Laird cut the ribbon, officially opening the attractive Post at 802 West Shady Grove Road


Second pic, first person, is Click

December 28, 2015 at 11:28 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Ed Ledoux
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Travis Click (father)
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=32708969

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December 28, 2015 at 11:46 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Ed Ledoux
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Sent a message to Vickie Ballow about Travy.

December 28, 2015 at 11:51 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Linda Giovanna Zambanini
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FWIW...Interesting tidbit...his findagrave memorial was posted by "Texas CSA" - which i'm pretty sure stands for Confederate States of America since his bio says he's mostly interested in graves of Confederate soldiers. So i'm guessing (actually i'm pretty confident) he's some Texas right-winger with a confederate flag sticker on his pickup truck! (And of course a gun rack). Here's the C.S.A. website intro post (all caps theirs). OMFG! These people are some cRaZy fucking TX rednecks!:

THE INTERIM GOVERNMENT FOR THE CONFEDERATE STATES OF AMERICA IS AN ASSEMBLAGE OF AMERICANS SEEKING REDRESS

Welcome to the official website of the Interim Government for the Confederate States of America.

The Confederates States of America was founded in 1861 and currently exist under the occupation of the national government of the United States of America. Our C.S.A. Constitution currently exists in a state of forced exile awaiting freedom loving Americans to rise and take up the banner of Truth and Justice and regain our States Sovereignty, and the founders system of governance. Progress is being made and the efforts to restore our beloved Confederacy continue to grow. With perseverance and dedication, the men and women of the Confederacy will have their Liberty. So help us God

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Ok....you can barf now! :P

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"This nation was founded by men of many nations and backgrounds. It was founded on the principle that all men are created equal, and that the rights of every man are diminished when the rights of one man are threatened.”    ~ JFK, Civil Rights Speech, 6/11/63

 

December 28, 2015 at 11:53 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Linda Giovanna Zambanini
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Ed Ledoux at December 28, 2015 at 11:28 AM

Kick ass Linda!

Click Travy Delano 8-31-1933 Male, Mother; Helen Elizabeth Ballow  Father; Travy Melechi Click. Couty; Tarrant

DOH! Guess whom was in the VFW (recall talk about FBI using the VFW informants)

WELCOMING COMMirrEE—Tlie welcome mat wab out Satuiday as VFW Post 2494 held open hou.ie celebrating die first anniversary of their organization since the Post was reactivated. Friends called throughout the alternoon to itispect tiie attractive new quarters. Pictured are Travy Click, vice commander; DJ , Nesbitt, past commander; and Melvin Huff, Post Commander.--Photo by Davies.

This was the opening of the new post,

MAYOR SNIPS THE RIBBON--The new Post home of tlie local VFW 01 ganizauon was officall> opened Saturday afternoon. Post Commander Melvin Neif gave an inspirational de^licatory address, re»>alling the memorable dale of December 7, 1941. After prayer by the Post Chaplain, Mayor Paul Laird cut the ribbon, officially opening the attractive Post at 802 West Shady Grove Road


Second pic, first person, is Click

Thanks Ed! Somehow I thought you'd like that! :D Can't wait for Greg to read these posts!
Thanks for  your VFW uploads! I'm just guessing he might have been KKK too if the findagrave contributor had some personal connection. Hell, 1/2 the DPD was KKK. 

I noticed the woman that uploaded his photo was a Ballow - so has to be a relative on his mother's side. Here's a search i did for him on familysearch.org once i found his real name was "Travy" not Tracey. Note he had several kids.: 

https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22Travy%20Delano%22~%20%2Bsurname%3AClick~%20%2Bbirth_place%3ATexas~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1933-1933~%20%2Bdeath_year%3A1967-1967~;

As Emeril says: "BAMMMMMMM!!" 8)

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"This nation was founded by men of many nations and backgrounds. It was founded on the principle that all men are created equal, and that the rights of every man are diminished when the rights of one man are threatened.”    ~ JFK, Civil Rights Speech, 6/11/63

 

December 28, 2015 at 12:03 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Linda Giovanna Zambanini
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Ed, i can't see that photo very well. Do you have a clearer version? If not do you mean the guy in the white/light suit? And what is the date on that VFW story? Sure would be nice to have a ca. '63 photo, although i'm sure he probably hadn't changed that much if the findagrave photo is from the '50s for example,  He was only 33 in '63

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"This nation was founded by men of many nations and backgrounds. It was founded on the principle that all men are created equal, and that the rights of every man are diminished when the rights of one man are threatened.”    ~ JFK, Civil Rights Speech, 6/11/63

 

December 28, 2015 at 12:16 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Linda Giovanna Zambanini
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Found some more stuff in my search for him. There is this document from the Wiesburg collection. The bottom line has his exact name without the "Bo" from the Mar. 13, 1967 Irving Daily News! 

Also did a search for him on e-yearbooks. Came up empty for "Travy Click," "Travy Delano Click" and "TD Click". Finally tried just "Bo Click" and got one page from 1965. It looks like this is him and the name looks short like it has 2 letters for a first name. Not sure what this is since i'm not a paying member. Can someone here who is a member retrieve it? Maybe he was a coach, teacher or something? Not sure...What the heck is "Ray Juneau"?! Looks like a restaurant. 

Here's the full page and a comparison - it's him for sure.: 




Addendum: I just was reading it's a real estate firm. Below the big yearbook photo it says "President T. D. Click"


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December 28, 2015 at 1:55 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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December 28, 2015 at 3:21 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Linda Giovanna Zambanini at December 28, 2015 at 12:16 PM

Ed, i can't see that photo very well. Do you have a clearer version? If not do you mean the guy in the white/light suit? And what is the date on that VFW story? Sure would be nice to have a ca. '63 photo, although i'm sure he probably hadn't changed that much if the findagrave photo is from the '50s for example,  He was only 33 in '63

Its a 1957 article Linda.

 

Publication:

The Irving News Record

Location:

Irving, Texas

Issue Date:

Thursday, December 12, 1957

Page:

Page 26

http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/44009684/

Yes light colored suit.

Sorry for smallish image  :/


December 28, 2015 at 6:57 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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December 28, 2015 at 7:39 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Linda Giovanna Zambanini
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Ed Ledoux at December 28, 2015 at 7:39 PM


Thank you for the clear photo, Ed!  

Also...wanted to say, I sort of jumped into the middle of this thread via a link to it i found one day recently in googling something else - i think it was McWatters when Barto posted those Due K photos of Scroggins and McWatters - and i had not (and still have not) read it all.... but from what i've now read it's really fantastic, groundbreaking work on this transit transfer issue!  It's just this sort of paradigm shifting work that makes ROKC THE place to be for JFK assassination research! :) Thanks for all your hard work on this - excellent! 

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"This nation was founded by men of many nations and backgrounds. It was founded on the principle that all men are created equal, and that the rights of every man are diminished when the rights of one man are threatened.”    ~ JFK, Civil Rights Speech, 6/11/63

 

December 29, 2015 at 4:51 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Ed Ledoux
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Thanks so much Linda!

Yes I thought it could have been a cabbie as he had the pencil behind the ear like cabbies do to fill out their logs.
Do you have a Scoggins pic for comparision?
Or as I said they cleaned up Cecil really well later, put him in a uniform, etc.

December 29, 2015 at 11:51 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Linda Giovanna Zambanini
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You're welcome! 
Barto posted at least a couple photos of Scroggins in his Due K file.  If they ever make another JFK movie and need someone to play his part, i nominate Joe Pesce! :) He's an "interesting" looking guy! LOL!


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"This nation was founded by men of many nations and backgrounds. It was founded on the principle that all men are created equal, and that the rights of every man are diminished when the rights of one man are threatened.”    ~ JFK, Civil Rights Speech, 6/11/63

 

December 30, 2015 at 12:49 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Ed Ledoux
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Here is Cecil and "Cecil?"



December 30, 2015 at 3:13 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Lee Farley
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The Marion Meharg story was one of the most interesting stories I ever researched.  Ultimately, it leads into something of a dead-end but I still believe there is something to it.  As soon as his story met with 1026 North Beckley I knew there was something important about it especially now we know that 1026 North Beckley wasn't the innocuous boarding house that we were led to believe it was...

December 30, 2015 at 4:36 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Hasan Yusuf
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If they ever make another JFK movie and need someone to play his part, i nominate Joe Pesce! :) He's an "interesting" looking guy! LOL!


I agree, Linda. They sure do look alike to me.

December 30, 2015 at 5:23 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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