REOPEN KENNEDY CASE

And IMO, started down by the warehouse on N Houston. Yep. That is where he was based, and I too, believe that is where he went first every morning.

It's written with all the fervour of a late night B grade horror flick. This is true of other testimony anada statements as well. As stupid as it sounds, I really think some of these types of lines were scripted by someone who watched those types of movies and actually believed that is how people spoke or reacted in real life extreme situations.

IMO It's not so much that Randle claimed she did not recognise Lee as he walked across Westbrook, I may have missed it, but I did go through her testimony and I can't see where she was even asked whether she had seen him before. But a failure to recognise someone, has within it, the assumption that you could/should have recognised them, or at least, that you did know them/had met them. It is the failure to ask her that simple question that is telling.  

Mrs. RANDLE. I never talked to Lee.

She never talked to him........

It seems she did know him from sight if we can believe this......

Mr. BALL. Did you ever see him arrive with Lee?
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Do you recall on a Thursday night, November 21 that you saw Lee get out of Wesley's car?
Mrs. RANDLE. That is right.
Mr. BALL. About what time of night was it?
Mrs. RANDLE. About 5:20, I believe, 5:15 or 5:25 something like that.
Mr. BALL. Where were you when you saw him?
Mrs. RANDLE. I was on my way to the grocery store.
Mr. BALL. Did you talk to Wesley about the fact that he had brought Lee home on this night?
Mrs. RANDLE. No, sir.

She saw him get out of Frazier's car (presumably at the Paine's) on her way to the grocery store. Apparently it was not significant enough to bother mentioning later to her brother.

Within a few seconds Ball extracts the following contradiction......

Mr. BALL. Well, did you mention to Wesley that night or did you ask Wesley that night how Lee happened to come home on Thursday?
Mrs. RANDLE. I might have asked him.
Mr. BALL. Do you remember anything about curtain rods?
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes.
Mr. BALL. What do you remember about that?
Mrs. RANDLE. He had told Wesley--
Mr. BALL. Tell me what Wesley told you.
Mrs. RANDLE. What Wesley told me. That Lee had rode home with him to get some curtain rods from Mrs. Paine to fix up his apartment.
Mr. BALL. When did Wesley tell you that?
Mrs. RANDLE. Well, that afternoon I suppose I would have had to ask him, he wouldn't have just told me.
Mr. BALL. You mean that night?
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. After he came home?
Mrs. RANDLE. I was on my way to the store. So I probably asked him when I got back what he was doing riding home with him on Thursday afternoon.
Mr. BALL. You think that was the time that Wesley told you-
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir; after I got back home.
Mr. BALL. That Lee had come home to get some curtain rods?
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, I am sure he told me that.

I didn't....... went to I think I did...... to I'm sure I did. Amazing turn around. Can you imagine what a crossexamining defence lawyer could do to her?

As an aside. Randle claims to be on her way to go to the grocery store on Thursday evening. Where was she going to (or coming from) in her car about 3pm Friday? More groceries? Where/how did she contact Frazier? We know they had contact after the shooting and before arriving at the Paine's because she knew he was at the hospital. Do you think Oswald was mentioned in that conversation?

Colin Crow at February 9, 2015 at 11:27 PM

As an aside. Randle claims to be on her way to go to the grocery store on Thursday evening. Where was she going to (or coming from) in her car about 3pm Friday? More groceries? Where/how did she contact Frazier? We know they had contact after the shooting and before arriving at the Paine's because she knew he was at the hospital. Do you think Oswald was mentioned in that conversation?

My god everyone was either off to the grocery store or on their way home from it.

As requested by Mick.  The LMR segment where she described seeing LHO as a "frightening experience" is from her Secret Service interview conducted on November 28th, 1963:

Interesting, at the top of the statement it says "William Everett Randle is not acquainted with Lee Harvey Oswald".

I recall elsewhere the opposite being said. Not that he knew Oswlad well but he was acquainted with him.

Weird.

Terry Martin at February 10, 2015 at 2:34 PM

Interesting, at the top of the statement it says "William Everett Randle is not acquainted with Lee Harvey Oswald".

 

I recall elsewhere the opposite being said. Not that he knew Oswlad well but he was acquainted with him.

 

Weird.

Mick Purdy at February 10, 2015 at 5:19 PM

Terry Martin at February 10, 2015 at 2:34 PM

Interesting, at the top of the statement it says "William Everett Randle is not acquainted with Lee Harvey Oswald".

 

I recall elsewhere the opposite being said. Not that he knew Oswlad well but he was acquainted with him.

 

Weird.

Terry,

you're right.

It's written up in the SS report and the FBI paperwork. The two documents conflict one another

Could be a simple typo or misunderstanding. Or not.

And Greg is spot on, Where was Randle earlier in the day.

Come to think of it, why did he get home so late to Irving Dallas if he caught a plane at 5.00pm from Austin, wasn't it a only a 3-4 hour drive. Plane trip shouldn't have taken too long.There's stuff here not adding up in my mind

Mick Purdy at February 10, 2015 at 5:19 PM

Terry Martin at February 10, 2015 at 2:34 PM

Interesting, at the top of the statement it says "William Everett Randle is not acquainted with Lee Harvey Oswald".

 

I recall elsewhere the opposite being said. Not that he knew Oswlad well but he was acquainted with him.

 

Weird.

Terry,

you're right.

It's written up in the SS report and the FBI paperwork. The two documents conflict one another

Could be a simple typo or misunderstanding. Or not.

And Greg is spot on, Where was Randle earlier in the day.

Come to think of it, why did he get home so late to Irving Dallas if he caught a plane at 5.00pm from Austin, wasn't it a only a 3-4 hour drive. Plane trip shouldn't have taken too long.There's stuff here not adding up in my mind

Mick,

the Secret Service never asked him the simple question: what time did you leave home that morning?

And yes, the flight back makes no sense. He claims his wife was already home when he got there. I'm pretty sure she the reports indicate a much later time for her trip home from City Hall.

Greg at February 10, 2015 at 6:59 PM

What this report lacks:

the question of when he left Irving.

A more complete description - ie height and weight. He is just shy of 30 - the age everyone gave as the "suspect" Was he also the right height and weight?

No follow up interview with Berry Caster (that I can find). No questions on if Berry Caster and warren Caster were related

No check on his name with flights between Austin and Dallas. No questions on the time descrepency re his flight home and his wife's release by DPD.

Something of potential importance - "he commented to someone at the motel that Oswald had been living in the neighborhood..." You know -- as opposed to living in an Oak Cliff boarding house and only visiting on weekends - except for that weekend of course -- I mean - he couldn't have been there on thursday night because he was actually living there - that would be ridiculous...

This report says he flew out of Austin at 11:05pm. Much better timing wise -- 5pm gets him home too early for Linnie... and I also just realised a 5pm flight out would mean that he left Austin before he even arrived!

Greg at February 10, 2015 at 7:54 PM

This report says he flew out of Austin at 11:05pm. Much better timing wise -- 5pm gets him home too early for Linnie... and I also just realised a 5pm flight out would mean that he left Austin before he even arrived!

What if William Whaley had a brother who was a pilot?

If I were investigating these two I'd be checking a hell of a lot more than what's been written up in this report.

I agree, would've checked what time he and his partner left for Austin,what time they arrived and what there movements were when they got there. I smell a rat!

steely dan at February 11, 2015 at 1:39 AM

Greg at February 10, 2015 at 7:54 PM

This report says he flew out of Austin at 11:05pm. Much better timing wise -- 5pm gets him home too early for Linnie... and I also just realised a 5pm flight out would mean that he left Austin before he even arrived!

What if William Whaley had a brother who was a pilot?

He did, but he flew the number 23 route - though you could probaly get a shopper's transfer at Alburquiokee and catch the 23 at the crossroads of Harveyandlee and Meandlee or Elmer & Fudd. Short landing strips, but Whaley's brother has a knack for extending them a few blocks.    

This from LMR on the 22/11/63 

And now this by 28/11/63

SS report...

my the story just got better and better

FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

Date 11/23/63

LINNIE MAE RANDLE, 2439 West Fifth Street, Irving, Texas, phone Blackburn 3-8965, was interviewed at the Dallas Police Department.

RANDLE advised that she is the sister of BUELL WESLEY FRAZIER, who is employed by the Texas School Book Depository and resides at her residence, stated that she met LEE HARVEY OSWALD through her brother, and has known OSWALD and his wife for about six weeks. RANDLE advised that OSWALD's wife is MARINA OSWALD, who resides at 2515 W. Fifth, Irving, Texas, and that OSWALD spends the weekends with his wife at the above mentioned address. Her brother, WESLEY FRAZIER, customarily drives LEE HARVEY OSWALD to 2515 West Fifth, Irving, Texas, on Friday night, and takes him back to work on Monday morning. He stated that OSWALD is also employed at the Texas School Book Depository.

On the night of November 21, 1963, she observed FRAZIER letting LEE HARVEY OSWALD out of FRAZIER's car at 2515 West Fifth. Subsequently, she asked FRAZIER why OSWALD was visiting his wife on Thursday evening, as he usually did not visit her until Friday evening each week. FRAZIER told her that OSWALD claimed he was visiting his wife the night of November 21, 1963, because he is fixing up his apartment and RUTH PAINE, with whom his wife resides at 2515 West Fifth, Irving, was going to give him some curtain rods.

RANDLE stated that about 7:15 a.m., November 22, 1963, she looked out of a window of her residence and observed LEE HARVEY OSWALD walking up her driveway and saw him put a long brown package, approximately 3 feet by 6 inches, in the back seat area of WESLEY FRAZIER's 1954 black Chevrolet four door automobile. Thereafter, she observed OSWALD walk to the front, or entrance area, of her residence where he waited for FRAZIER to come out of the house and give him a ride to work.

RANDLE stated while at the Dallas Police Department on the evening of November 22, 1963, officers of the Dallas Police Department had exhibited to her some brown package paper, however she had not been able to positively identify it as being identical with the above-mentioned brown package, due to the fact she had only observed the brown package from her residence window at a distance.

on 11/22/63 at Dallas, Texas File # DL 89-43

by Special Agent JAMES W. BOOKHOUT/cah/tjd

Date dictated 11/23/63

Now if only the Dallas DA will reopen the investigation and get Frazier to testify under oath.Would be quite interesting to hear what he would have to say.

Lest there be any doubt Linnie Mae Randle helped the investigating authorities in every conceivable way to frame Oswald for the the assassination. The devil is in the detail of the official documents and her WC testimony.

We need look no further than the affidavits, the FBI reports the WC testimony and this atrociously written report from the S.S. 

Linnie Mae, her husband William and her brother Wes IMO played a role, and important one, in getting the authorities the press and the general public to believe Oswald carried a large package holding a rifle into the TSBD on that Friday morning.