REOPEN KENNEDY CASE

I don't know but good question mate.

There was at that time a young girl in a blue shirt standing on the concrete pedestal and viewing straight into the doorway, which is evidenced in Hughes film. She had the best view possible, This girl allgedly became a medical doctor and she is alive, living somewhere in USA.

It is now a long time since the assassination happened, and it may be that we do not find anyone able or willing to confirm the identity of PM. However, there is still a way of doing it from the visual evidence.

One way would be to take a statistical approach. We would need to get pictures of faces of e.g. 50 women and 50 men, One of those persons would be Oswald, and fortunately there are enough of pictures of Oswald from different angles. Then, these pictures should be 3D reconstructed, and the recontructed 3D heads would be rotated exactly to the view angles of Prayer Man. In the next, a program for face recognition would be run on 2D pictures acquired from all reconstructed and rotated 3D heads, which program would say with what probability each of the 100 people would match PM's head and face. The result would be basically a probability table in which Oswald, if he was the PM, should stand out with a probability value allowing to reject the zero hypothesis (the zero hypothesis would be: Oswald is not PM), This approach does not request us to reconstruct the face of PM at all. It is an objective and reproducible method and reliable enough to submit it to US government.

Another approach would be to perform feature extraction in every of Darnell's pictures and the Wiegman's still. There cannot be any averaging across pictures, this leads nowhere. The extraction can be done using algorithms like independent component analysis. Once a reasonable number of features is extracted, the features from different pictures would be re-assambled again into a 3D head model. Missing or hidden parts of the face and head would be interpolated based on the symmetry rule (if we have identified e.g. the right eye, the left is assumed to be symmetrically identical, and can be added even if outside of view). 

Both methods involve a hell lot of work, especially for a person like myself who is not trained in computer photography. Also, the good programs for face reconstruction are terribly expensive, and the result can hardly be guaranteed. I think a forensic lab would be able to do it, however, where to find a forensic lab wanting this kind of job,

Another option would be to storm the 6th floor museum................and walk out with the 1st gen. copy of the Darnell film......

Stan Dane at October 26, 2015 at 6:50 PM

I'm going through Prayer Man on the Facebook page and I put this graphic together that shows the relative positions of Buell Wesley Frazier and Prayer Man from the inside looking out. Prayer Man was mere steps away from the small storage room where Oswald was placed by two first-day news accounts immediately following the assassination.

 

Sometimes the bullshit just stares you right in the face..........

in Stan's graphic on the left you see the stairs, what people don't see is that to the left of that black and white sign is an elevator (whether that is conveniently left out of the pic is another debate). So anyone arriving in that vestibule will see to his/her right the lift and the stairs, you cannot miss it.

Bear also in mind that if you go through the second set of doors you will walk into a counter that's right behind it to address visitors since behind all that is the work shop where they do the packing and despatching and we don't want peeps just walking thru them doors do we? Truly and Shelly's offices are to the right.

Now then let's have a little tinker about Marrion "Momma Son" Baker who was searching for an elevator/steps to get upstairs..............

Barto at October 29, 2015 at 3:15 AM

Another option would be to storm the 6th floor museum................and walk out with the 1st gen. copy of the Darnell film......

I did not know that Darnell's film was with The 6th floor Museum. So, Gary Mack knew the truth the whole time as he certainly had viewed the film in great detail.

The storm... I think we need to create enough pressure, and they will be then forced to share the film. It is actually great that the film is with the 6th floor, as the private companies like AP or NBC can just ignore any requests, whilst a government controlled institution like the Museum would have to do it if requested by the government.

They will stonewall us until the cows come home......

The search for the Weigman & Darnell films:

http://www.prayer-man.com/the-search-for-the-weigman-darnell-films/

I will make a follow up blogpost on this soon

Barto at October 29, 2015 at 4:49 AM

They will stonewall us until the cows come home......

The search for the Weigman & Darnell films:

http://www.prayer-man.com/the-search-for-the-weigman-darnell-films/

I will make a follow up blogpost on this soon

Bart, the question each of us (I say researchers) face is the one which Jim Malone (Sean Connery) asked Elliot Ness (Kevin Costner) in The Untouchables, a movie about fighting the mafia. Ness expressed his wish to go against the mafia, and Malone asked him how far was Ness willing to go, how much was he willing to sacrifice. Being stonewalled for revealing the truth about the crimes associated with JFK killing is included in the price. I know you know.

Barto at October 29, 2015 at 3:15 AM

Another option would be to storm the 6th floor museum................and walk out with the 1st gen. copy of the Darnell film......

I want this option, this is the one which appeals to me the most

I'm writing the Dallas DA and demand they confiscate this film from the sixth floor as it shows an innocent man standing a top the steps when the crime he is charged with was allegedly taking place on the upper floors of that building.  Just Kidding

"The guy is innocent until proven guilty is he not? He was not proven guilty so he is therefore innocent. What Sean Murphy has provided to this community, and to Lee Oswald and his daughters and grandchildren, is more potential proof of his COMPLETE innocence. Yet, here we all, still wrapping him into some sort of assassination plot by trying harder and harder to push square pegs into round holes."

Oswald still has the presumption of innocence. So, prove he's guilty, you lone nut bitches.

"Virtually everything we have been told about Lee Oswald's movements and behaviours during his last few weeks of his life in the official narrative are lies; so I'm sorry but the second floor encounter is a lie too and until someone can prove it is a fact by providing something other than things invented in their head; then I'm going to be treating it as a lie."

http://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t388p285-prayer-man-on-the-education-forum

That's the correct way to think about it. The Second Floor lunchroom encounter is nothing more than a fig newton of the Warren Commission's vivid imagination. Prove that it's not a lie and get back to us. We'll be in the pub.

Stan Dane at October 29, 2015 at 3:19 PM

"The guy is innocent until proven guilty is he not? He was not proven guilty so he is therefore innocent. What Sean Murphy has provided to this community, and to Lee Oswald and his daughters and grandchildren, is more potential proof of his COMPLETE innocence. Yet, here we all, still wrapping him into some sort of assassination plot by trying harder and harder to push square pegs into round holes."

 

Oswald still has the presumption of innocence. So, prove he's guilty, you lone nut bitches.

 

"Virtually everything we have been told about Lee Oswald's movements and behaviours during his last few weeks of his life in the official narrative are lies; so I'm sorry but the second floor encounter is a lie too and until someone can prove it is a fact by providing something other than things invented in their head; then I'm going to be treating it as a lie."

 

http://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t388p285-prayer-man-on-the-education-forum

 

That's the correct way to think about it. The Second Floor lunchroom encounter is nothing more than a fig newton of the Warren Commission's vivid imagination. Prove that it's not a lie and get back to us. We'll be in the pub.

 

How do some of these thinkers think Oswald was framed at the TSBD?

For those who believe the 2nd floor encountrer exonerates Oswald, let me know when it happens.

Thanks for posting Robin, not one to turn this into a pissing contest but I reckon my version is slightly sharper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7p1ntLF--s

Yours is also a tad more stretched, hmmmm why would this be since the source is the same.

This is another one done with some different ripping sw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfMwkPa295I

The version made by blankdogman is fuzzier but I kinda like the slomo effect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmhALsXc5_8

Video is a funny thing to 'play' with.

LoneGunman c'est moi, I compared your version to the two I upped and the one by BlankDogMan

Paul Francisco Paso at October 28, 2015 at 11:03 PM

Is there any other living witness that was on the steps other than Frazier that can be asked about who PM is? Frazier isn't going to say anything. He is hopelessly compromised. How many TSBD employees are there still around?

Apparently Joe Molina is still alive and still living in Dallas.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=20354&page=109

Extras Menu on "JFK the movie" Blu Ray screenshot taken with my phone.

Thx Robin, same source as mine.

Question for you: did GM ever discuss the 1st gen copy he had of the Darnell film with you?