REOPEN KENNEDY CASE

FWIW: Bill Kelly has finally left the reservation:

"None of the photo evidence is a Game Changer - they said that about Oswald in the doorway and it turned out to be Lovelady, they said that about the Tramps and we still can't agree on who they are despite the clear pix, and Landsdale at DP, etc.

Despite the great strides in facial recognition software - nobody seems to have even tried to get a specialist to look into this -

Game Changers must be solid - undesputable evidence of an assassination related crime not attribuable to Oswald that is admissible in court or can be investigated by Congress - and they are out there."

Absolute, undiluted horseshit.  What the fuck has this got to do with the Three Tramps?  Does Bill really want everyone chasing their fucking tails for another fifty years?

Talk about being blinkered and being lost.  We need the fucking source material.  Not facial recognition software.  What is facial recognition software going to give us from a pixelated standard definition image.

Lee Farley at March 19, 2015 at 2:14 PM

FWIW: Bill Kelly has finally left the reservation:

"None of the photo evidence is a Game Changer - they said that about Oswald in the doorway and it turned out to be Lovelady, they said that about the Tramps and we still can't agree on who they are despite the clear pix, and Landsdale at DP, etc.

 

Despite the great strides in facial recognition software - nobody seems to have even tried to get a specialist to look into this -

 

Game Changers must be solid - undesputable evidence of an assassination related crime not attribuable to Oswald that is admissible in court or can be investigated by Congress - and they are out there."

Absolute, undiluted horseshit.  What the fuck has this got to do with the Three Tramps?  Does Bill really want everyone chasing their fucking tails for another fifty years?

Talk about being blinkered and being lost.  We need the fucking source material.  Not facial recognition software.  What is facial recognition software going to give us from a pixelated standard definition image.

And, again, it dumps the whole PM package neatly into the pixels department again when it is so very much more.

I can expect that shiite from Cube but Bill should know better.

Brilliantly distilled down and nailed, Lee.

Despite the shirts being very similar, I'm not sure the guy behind the glass is the same as the one getting into the car.

This came up a few months ago on the Assassination Forum. Jack Dougherty may be the man in the TSBD.

[IMG]http://i59.tinypic.com/2hrew6r.jpg[/IMG]

As I have said previously anyone with a white collared shirt, particularly photographed inside the TSBD should be of interest.

Redfern whom said the guy in the white shirt is getting into the car?
Do they have any other evidence the white shirt guy gets in the car?
I want to know where the idea came that this guy got in the police car.

Ed Ledoux at March 21, 2015 at 1:45 AM

Redfern whom said the guy in the white shirt is getting into the car?
Do they have any other evidence the white shirt guy gets in the car?
I want to know where the idea came that this guy got in the police car.

Ed,

Sorry. Just a lazy and probably false assumption.

I still don't think he's the bloke inside the TSBD, though:

Ed Ledoux at March 18, 2015 at 6:26 AM

May I ask about this fellow?

Also a doorway man. He was inside the front doorway, and was let out and seen by the DPD car?




He is seen in Allen image inside front door of TSBD and then by the DPD car.
He has the same look and shirt.
I compared him to the sixth floor West window man in that smaller image.
Whom was this employee?

Excellent thread btw!

Thanks Redfern,

I do think he is a ringer for the person inside the glass.

Perhaps the hair, or hairline is the only thing that may be different. If it is.
Tough call but I do not see anything glaring that says they are not the same person.

Michael Welch replying to Cube&Scully's thread on Belief and Evidence makes mention of the guy standing behind the glass. He says it is Mr. Roy Edward Lewis

http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,12156.msg375930.html#new

I am not certain it is the person behind the glass in this shot but I thought I would post it just in case.

(and it would be amazing if something interesting actually came out of Cube's thread at stinky's!)

I thought Roy Lewis was black and standing on the steps at the time of the shots.

Colin Crow at March 26, 2015 at 10:14 AM

I thought Roy Lewis was black and standing on the steps at the time of the shots.

Then Mr. Welch and I are in error!!

Terry Martin at March 26, 2015 at 10:40 AM

Colin Crow at March 26, 2015 at 10:14 AM

I thought Roy Lewis was black and standing on the steps at the time of the shots.

Then Mr. Welch and I are in error!!

 

 

Sean indicates as such here.......trying to find my source  material. Pretty sure he is one of the black guys on the west side of the steps.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=20418

confirmed.....he says he is black in "No more Silence" you can read most of that book for free on google books.

Colin Crow at March 26, 2015 at 9:29 PM

Terry Martin at March 26, 2015 at 10:40 AM

Colin Crow at March 26, 2015 at 10:14 AM

I thought Roy Lewis was black and standing on the steps at the time of the shots.

Then Mr. Welch and I are in error!!

 

 

Sean indicates as such here.......trying to find my source  material. Pretty sure he is one of the black guys on the west side of the steps.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=20418

confirmed.....he says he is black in "No more Silence" you can read most of that book for free on google books.

Thanks, Colin!

BTW, I am enjoying your thread on BRW and the bag and bones.

Hi. First post here.
the "Prayer Man" stuff is the most compelling subject in 20 or more years.
Gerda Dunckles awesome gifs sold me but ya know, it's the best bit of research going on right now.
Sean and everyone, great work.

And hi to all here. I like the relaxed atmosphere/no nutbars climate here...
Cheers all!

Oswaldo

Cheers Oswaldo Nova!

And yes leave it to stinkys bunch to say the guy is really a negro... oy vey!
This is a white guy whom was one of very few white males working at the TSBD.
JD, Buell and Lee are among those few.
Again this is just pure ignorance or trying to squirm out of the fact that this white male is either JD or we have an unknown white male inside the TSBD.
Could it be Pierce Allmans buddy?
Ed

Page 6
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/FBI%20Records%20Files/105-82555/105-82555%20Section%20023/105-23a.pdf

Roberts said the person she knows as Mr Lee came in wearing a light colored shirt, short sleeves or sleeves rolled up.

Sounds a lot like a Prayer Man description.

If the arms are folded it may be the right hand (bright) is over the left elbow and not tucked under like normal.

Who is this?