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What if a flash was attached? Even if not emitting light would it reflect as you described? | |
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I'm generalizing here, but I think it's possible if the surfaces were shiny/reflective and pointed toward Wiegman. And if PM did have a camera, I'd think he would have it pointed directly at the Wiegman, otherwise why have a camera if you weren't going to take pictures of the passing motorcade? I for one think that PM's position was ideal for taking pictures of the motorcade because there was nothing obstructing PM's view as the motorcade approached and made the turn on Elm. If you could clearly see PM from Wiegman's point of view, flip that 180 degrees and PM had a clear view of the motorcade. | |
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Plus the fact that PM was entirely in the shade. Which could be a factor when taking photos. We need better resolution but after seeing that darkening of the vestibule in Towner... Unless that was a second generation print? | |
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Oswald's alleged possessions from Paine's garage included the Stereo Realist camera (that takes 3d pictures) and a Cuera-2 camera. Also found was a flash attachment for an Ansco camera. No Ansco camera was found. The Imperial Reflex Duo was "found" by Ruth Paine and passed to Robert Oswald who kept hold of it for two months before handing it over to the FBI. So he had a camera (Imperial Duo) that should have come with a flash attachment but no flash was found. He had a flash attachment (Ansco) but no camera. He had the Stereo Realist that can have a flash attached but none found. The less said about the Minox - - the better. FWIW: the Cuera-2 camera's flash attachment (if youhad one) went into the top of the camera. | |
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Lee, just looking at the guy and his collection I would think he would have a flash for the Reflex. Remember it was overcast and drizzling that morning. Also Oswald had no way of knowing what time the motorcade would pass until late morning. Wouldn't you take your flash, just in case? | |
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Yes. Yes I would, Colin. We've often wondered about the shell game over the cameras. Much has been written concerning it being related to the BYP's. I think the shell game was about something else. Something more incredible. I asked this question in 2013. What if the accused assassin took photographs of the mototcade as it passed the TSBD? Maybe he did "shoot" the President. | |
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Cuera-2 taken from Paine residence (top) Stereo Realist with flash attachment (bottom). The Stereo Realist was ultimately claimed by Ruth Paine. She said it was hers.
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I think the Stereo Realist is too large. From the tryptich that Tony posted, the two on the right looks like he is holding something dark, relatively square, with the shiny portion in the upper left quadrant/corner. Doesn't sound like the Imperial. Maybe the Cuera? | |
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Well if it was a camera, one would think PM got some good shots. Strange they are not in the public domain like so many others. | |
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Have ANY photos come to light that could have been taken from the front door of the TSBD? Maybe someone has seen the pictures and not realized their provenance. | |
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Terry, Nope. Lee | |
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Yeah, that would be a little too easy, huh? [::sigh:: back to the drawing board] | |
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Colin, spot on. If PM is taking pictures then the reason the pictures aren't in the record is because PM was Oswald. If it was anyone else we would have seen the photographs. The same logic that Goban followed when BWF refused to identify PM. If it was anyone else then BWF would have said so. His non-idenfitication of PM is confirmation that is was Oswald. Everything we have uncovered. Everything we have seen in the photos. The dodgy black overlays on that doorway in Towner. The testimony of Baker, Campbell, Truly and the supporting cast. The FBI's concern over Altgens-6. Everything points to the figure being Lee Harvey Oswald. No one else. | |
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That's an absolutely brilliant deduction, Lee. How non-Cube thinking!! You know, simply waiting for evidence to drop in your lap... rather than, y'know, using some mental faculties... | |
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PM does look as if he is standing there winding the film to the end of the roll. | |
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Whoever PM is he is virtually fixed to the spot except for some arm movement. In shock and has no interest in looking around the corner after the shots are heard.....almost like....holy shit....a rabbit in the headlights. | |
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Couldn't be the Imperial, Terry, as that model is held at waist level to view down into the viewfinder. Looks as though the camera he is holding is just before or just after being held at eye level. (If it is a camera, which is what it looks like.) | |
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Info about Smena 2 (Cuera 2) | |
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Watch through this to 7 minutes!! | |
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Ray, Whilst I agree with you that it does look in the frames like PM is holding a camera up higher than his waist I do not agree that he had to hold the Imperial Reflex at his waist to take a photo. Whilst this is how one technically operates the camera one does not have to look through the viewfinder any more than I have to look at the screen of my camera phone to take a photo. Nor did I have to look through a viewfinder of a camcorder to film when they were the height of technology. You could, should you so wish, hold this camera out at arms length and take a picture at the cost of focus and framing. But we do not know what anyone looking through the viewfinder would see if you moved it further up your body toward your chin and tilted your head down. The problem we have is that the inventory records concerning his alleged possession is dodgy as hell. The testimony concerning ownership of the cameras is dodgy as hell. The only thing we do know is PM looks like Oswald and he holding what could be a camera. | |
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