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MANNING Employment Service 1820 W. Shady Grove, Irving BL 2-8834 ORDER FILLING you’ll learn that plus receiving, shipping and sales on trruive job for alert hriili sc 1 k ) o 1 izraduat(\ age 18 25 5 dass, Hrook Hollow. Salary open MANNING Employment Service 1820 W. Shady Grove, Irving BL 2 8834 Mr. BALL - Where do you work? Mr. FRAZIER - Work at Texas School Books. Mr. BALL - How long have you worked there? Mr. FRAZIER - I have been working there since September. Mr. BALL - September of 1963? Mr. FRAZIER - Correct. Mr. BALL - What kind of work do you do there? Mr. FRAZIER - I fill orders. Mr. BALL - How did you happen to get that job? Mr. FRAZIER - Well, I went to see, first I come up there and started looking for a job and couldn't find one myself so I went to one of these employment agencies and through that a lady called up one morning, I was fixing to go out and look for one, I was looking for myself in the meantime when they were, too, and so she called up and gave me a tip to it if I was interested in a job like that I could go over there and see about that and for the time being I wasn't working and needed some money and so I did and I went over there and saw Mr. Truly, and he gave me an interview, and then he hired me the same day I went over there. Mr. BALL - You say you came up, you mean you came up from Huntsville? Mr. FRAZIER - That is right; yes, sir. Mr. BALL - That was in September 1963? Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir; it was. Mr. BALL - Looking for a job around Dallas? Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir. Mr. BALL - Did you go to live with your sister at that time? Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir; I did. Mr. BALL - What--where is the employment agency and what is its name when you first applied for a job? Mr. FRAZIER - Well, I went to several but, see, this one got me this job the main one was Massey, the employment agency, and it is over there on Shady Grove Road. Mr. BALL - In Dallas? Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; in Irving. Mr. BALL - How do you spell that name, the name of the employment agency? Mr. FRAZIER - Massey? Mr. BALL - Yes. Mr. FRAZIER - I believe it is M-a-s-s-e-y. Mr. BALL - And it was a woman at the employment agency that called you and told you to go to see the Texas School Book Depository? Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, right. Mr. BALL - And you went to see Mr. Truly and after an interview he gave you a job? Mr. FRAZIER - Correct. Mr. BALL - Then you started work there about what date in September? Mr. FRAZIER - It was the 13th. I say that was the same day I went for an interview. I went early enough that morning that he told me to come back after lunch. Mr. BALL - And you are still working there? Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir. Mr. BALL - When Mr. Truly hired you did he tell you it would be a full-time job or just a temporary job? Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; he told me that he was looking for somebody full time and I told him, well, that is what I wanted, and so he said that would be just fine. Mr. BALL - How much did he start to pay you? Mr. FRAZIER - He started me off with a dollar and a quarter an hour. Mr. BALL - That is for an eight-hour day? Mr. FRAZIER - Right. Five days a week. | |
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I looked through a weeks worth of classifieds for Sept 4-13 | |
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There was another partner... at least until May, 1963... http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=98521327 | |
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Hilarious, another Willie William Bill.... | |
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Seems contagious. T.E. Moore (24 H 534, "President KENNEDY had reached the Thornton Freeway sign, a shot was fired and Mr. MOORE observed the President slumping forward in the Presidential car.") Abraham Zapruder (TV interview at 2:00 pm Nov. 22/63: " I heard a shot, and he slumped to the side, like this. Then I heard another shot or two, I couldn't say it was one or two)
SA George Hickey (CE1024, 18 H 761. Perhaps2 or 3 seconds elapsed from the time I looked to the rear and then looked at the President. He was slumped forward Harold Norman (3 H 191. “but I know I hear d a shot, and then after I heard the shot, well, it seems as though the President, you know, slumped or something,”) Malcolm Summers (Affidavit, 19 H 500 “The President's car had just come up in front of me when I heard a shot and saw the President slump down Mary Moorman (Affidavit, 19 H 487, “As I snapped the picture of President Kennedy, I heard a shot ring out. President Kennedy kind of slumped over.” Charles Brehm (Dallas Times Herald statement, Nov. 22, 1963 “The witness Brehm was shaking uncontrollably as he further described the shooting. ‘The first shot must not have been too solid, because he just slumped’.”) S M Holland, After the first shot the President slumped over | |
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Very interesting, Ed. An awful lot of slumping going on while JFK was stumping. And the marriages that were slumping as well, all three... weird. Too bad nobody took advantage of it by creating a new dance called "The Slump". The article in the Christchurch star was most enlightening. Although, I wonder why no one else has ever mentioned the dog in the middle of the road that Mr. & Mrs. Kennedy were looking at. | |
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Yres Terry, the dog was called Slumpy | |
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Everyone Do the Slumpyty Slump. | |
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Kinda like Oswald Ducking everywhere.... | |
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Damn Mick, you beat me to it... so I'll go with him being an "od duck" by way of explaing all his ducking... "In other words, Stephen, do you think Oswald was just an Odd Duck doing one of his Odd Ducky things" "Frisk queries Oswald, curious about the odd duck he has in custody." "Nosenko had insisted that the Soviets considered Oswald an odd duck" "And Oswald was a pretty odd duck, I could se how he would stand out" "Fatal Deception otherwise portrays Mr. Oswald as an odd duck" "She described Oswald as being quiet, who kept to himself and was “an odd duck.”" "Chapman [obviously related to Oswald] is a very, very odd duck, though." But hang on... Michael Paine was one too..."We had talked about--Michael is a little, I couldn't call him an odd duck, but he is ..." Beggoraggh! David Ferrie, as well "The premise of odd duck David William Ferrie" Let's not leave Jim Jones out, okay? "Jim Jones was an odd duck" "He also remembers "he was an Odd duck"." "remember him as an odd duck There are reports that Oswald was often seen walking backwards" | |
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Hey if it walks like a duck .....well you know the rest | |
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Yes, Ed, September in 1962. Though they seem to be back together by Easter '63 if I am reading the doc aright. Hall seems to keep disappearing although no one mentions any slumping or ducking... | |
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Have been looking for a series of docs I found ages ago... going into all of the Soviet girls running around Dallas separated or divorced... Elana Hall was one... but there were others... some with young children. The Paines were also September '62 -- not 1963... but you can also look at the guys from CUSA -- they all separated from from girlfriends and wives, awell. | |
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Great job! I find it difficult to believe the TSBD used an Irving agency. Low level jobs like that, you worry about the persons ability to get to work. Standard question if not regarded as local... do you have a reliable car or other reliable means of transport? So to avoid worrying about transport, you would be using an agency close by... Did Wes even need to move to irving to find work? Huntsville is (I believe) a silmilar distance from Austin as Irvng is from Dallas. Why not take advantage of your despised step-father being away for a while and stay in Huntsville. If there really was no work locally, start looking in Austin. What we are left with is him moving to Irving around the time the Dallas luncheon venue is resolved... | |
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Sorry... should have checked first. Huntsville is about 70 miles from Houston... so probably to far to commute for him... | |
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Beverly Joan Frazier, born May, 1945, lives, Paris, Texas. Buell was one of the few who was not asked about his marital statis by the WC... | |
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Melissa Markham Facebook, Twitter & MySpace on PeekYou www.peekyou.com/melissa_markham Known Locations: Charleston WV, 25313, Hurricane WV 25526, Winfield WV 25213 Possible Relatives: Beverly Joan Frazier, John P Frazier, John M Frazier. | |
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If our very own, lovable, Buell was married to a relative of the shady Markham family - and it is just a possibility at the moment, I am sure - it marks the whole case suddenly very much more interesting. As if it needed it, huh?
With the Markham connections with the Bonnie and Clyde fun bunch, no telling what Mr & Mrs BWF were connected to.
That is, if these connections pan out... | |
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I think at this stage, it would be a huge leap to say there is anything to it, nut maybe someone with genealogy skills could dig a bit. As it happens, one of the other occupants* had the same name as a member of the Barrow gang... but that member was executed in the 30s. edit to add: occupant of N Beckley boarding house. | |
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Well, it was too good to be true, of course.
http://www.timesleaderonline.com/page/content.detail/id/502094.html?nav=5011
The Beverly J Frazier was widow of Attorney John P. Frazier. She was born in Wheeling, WV, in 1925 and died at 82 in 2008.
Her granddaughter was one Melissa Markham.
No connections ( at least very close ) to the Dallas/Huntsville crowd. So, back to the wish board, I guess. | |
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