REOPEN KENNEDY CASE

From 1968 by Dick Barnabei

That’s interesting, Mick. If only Sprague had not been shafted as HSCA Chief Counsel we wouldn’t be left with the maze of monkey puzzles we are trying to find our way through today. In particular Frazier wouldn’t have got the easy ride he has got to date.

The photo of Frazier’s current abode posted by Vinny is also interesting – a well-appointed detached residence in a leafy suburb, as they might say in a property supplement. Frazier seems to have done well for himself despite some inauspicious beginnings. How did he manage that?

Thanks for that information, Beowulf.

Having said all that, one has to ask why it was that Frazier was called back after being released by the DPD supposedly to take the lie detector test at 9.00pm.

Police tactic. Let you think you're in the clear, then yank you back. Have come across a similar incident in another case I've been looking at and it was not a sudden decision to yank that person back. It was, in context, planned that way in advance.  

Greg at December 21, 2015 at 4:23 PM

Having said all that, one has to ask why it was that Frazier was called back after being released by the DPD supposedly to take the lie detector test at 9.00pm.

Police tactic. Let you think you're in the clear, then yank you back. Have come across a similar incident in another case I've been looking at and it was not a sudden decision to yank that person back. It was, in context, planned that way in advance.  

I agree Greg,  the police probably used certain tactics. But in this case I wouldn't write anything as off limits. 

Just as there appears to be between 4-5 versions of his arrest, its quite possible the lie detector test could be a piece of fiction.

Beowulf at December 21, 2015 at 1:05 PM

Goban, there are two different Spragues. The one mentioned above wasn't the one who later became HSCA counsel. As for Wes's house, he's an Army veteran so he qualified for a GI bill mortgage (low interest, no down payment). Also, though it's less the case now because of the fracked oil boom over the last decade, but you can buy a lot of house for the money in Texas with its wide open space and lax zoning laws.

Thanks mate, I was aware of that but still find it interesting these things were being discussed way back when.

Mick Purdy at December 3, 2015 at 4:45 PM

Jake,

I'm not going mad and neither are you.............

CSPAN.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?287933-101/kennedy-assassination-buell-wesley-frazier-part-2

Watch from 12-40 through to 15-52.

My goodness Wesley is full of it. He can't help himself. It borders on some form of compulsive behaviour disorder.

I wonder what has triggered such story telling.

Mick, that's the same CSPAN interview in which Buell has the grammar meltdowns and nervous ticks as Mack repeatedly questions him about the people standing near him and cameras being used by people on the steps or around the steps. Just rewatched the segment you suggested and beyond that point. In it he lies repeatedly.

He says he saw Oswald walk down the Houston side of the TSBD and cross over Houston then over to Elm. Mack asks him when this was and he says 5-10 minutes after the shots. But his 11/22 police affidavit he says after the shots: "I stood there, then people started running by and i turned and went back in the building and got my lunch and eat it." (In later accounts he says in the basement). So this sounds like he went back in almost immediately because he says in his WC testimony people were running and screaming as soon as the shots were fired. However, in his WC testimony he says he doesn't go in for a few mins. until others were going in then he stood around talking a few minutes before going to eat his lunch in the basement. Those 2 accounts don't jive with each other and neither one jives with this 2002 CSPAN account that he saw LHO go down Houston and cross to the south side of Elm 5-10 minutes after the shots. How could he see Oswald 5-10 mins after the shots if he went inside the TSBD basement to eat his lunch much sooner than that? He also said he was 10-12 feet from Oswald when he saw him. This means he would have to have left the steps and been over near Houston. None of his official statements to the DPD or FBI or WC say he left the steps (other than to go inside). Another thing - there is absolutely no mention of a roll call in his WC testimony. He says they lined up and showed ID, explained where they were at the time of the shots and gave a phone number where they could be contacted - then they were released between 1 and 2pm. 

Another lie...he says in his 3/18/64 FBI Statement when he was released between 1 and 2pm he "went directly home". 


Buell is a very, very, bad liar. 

Also...in reading over and comparing his FBI statements and WC testimony with his CSPAN accounts i came across this interesting comment i had never noticed before. Could this be an early effort to establish a cover story in case evidence of Oswald as PM surfaced via the Darnell film or via loose lips of other witnesses on the steps? 

Mick Purdy at December 22, 2015 at 10:44 PM

Mick, not a bad job.

But can you resize the image again, you did not allow the pic to grow from increasing it to 400 px

Plz make sure scale styles/constrain proportions/resample image are all ticked when you upres it. Thx.

In your version I have dscovered the outline of the lady who has her leg poking out in front of PM and she is talking so it seems to the white haired fella in front of PM

THX and merry x-mas

When you draw a line across the heads of those on that step its more clear where the dark lady's head is. (approximately)

Don't know what your talking about Bart, that woman is using that head as a clutch.
No really Duncan MacRae and Albert doyle said so!

The empty skull that responds to Mcrae is now lying outright.
He took the image and swapped his painted side for the original.
Shows how desperate he really has become.
Hasan, feel free to check his internet connection next available opening.

Hasan, feel free to check his internet connection next available opening.

Will do, Ed. Just as soon as I have bought one of these:

http://www.dupont.com/products-and-services/personal-protective-equipment/chemical-protective-garments/uses-and-applications/biological-hazard-protection.html

Ed Ledoux at December 25, 2015 at 5:04 AM

The empty skull that responds to Mcrae is now lying outright.
He took the image and swapped his painted side for the original.
Shows how desperate he really has become.
Hasan, feel free to check his internet connection next available opening.

Nail him Ed, expose him for his lies.

10 questions!

A Lie Detector and a certified operator.

Filmed on camera.

Wesley Frazier thats the challenge.

Oh I see your saying replicate the test he took at DPD.
Good idea Mick, I wonder if he'd be up for it?

Got an examiner in mind?

Ed Ledoux at January 2, 2016 at 9:24 AM

Oh I see your saying replicate the test he took at DPD.
Good idea Mick, I wonder if he'd be up for it?

Got an examiner in mind?

Ed,

no examiner in mind, but it's my shout!

Maybe this test can make up for the last one  

Anyone got any ideas for an examiner?

Yes lets see if he's up for it, if he declines I'd be even more suspicious than I am now of our mate Wesley.

Someone local to BWF would be the cheapest option I imagine - but also the one one fraught with danger of being biased.