REOPEN KENNEDY CASE

Our famous bus rider is not Lee Oswald but Jack Dougherty.
He rode the marsalis Bus, the same route Bledsoe would take.

Now what did Jack look like?

He was a 1937 classmate at Sunset High

He was in Band and the French Club


He could be over six foot in this picture. The tallest guy on the right is not our Jack I believe, he is seen in another club. (R Moore?)
JD was 6'2" when he enlisted in the military October 24, 1942

Top seven taller musicians. Pick your candidate...

Did Jack join the Army Band and thus stayed stateside for the war?
Jack was at Freeman Army Airfield near Seymour In
405th Band Freeman Field.

It was first know as Seymour Army Air Field.

The first 500 men arrived in December 1942. Initial organization was 35th - 36th - 1079th and 1080th Two Engine Flying traing Squadrons (TEFT). Included were the 447th Base Headquarters and Air Base Squadron, 2nd Weather Squadron, Medical Detatchment, 856th Signal Service, Army Nurse Corps, 1087th Guard Squadron, 742nd WAC Post Headquarters Company, Women's Airforce Service Pilots (WASP), 320th Aviation Squadron (Colored) (arrived January 21st, 1943), 405th Army Air Force band and 907th QuarterMaster Corps.

Jack in French Club 1936.  He would be 13 years old in this picture.
I have numbered all males 1-11
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I know many believe this is not our Jack due to the wrong spelling of his name.
The yearbooks are notorious for getting the names wrong.
But there is Dougherty in French Club and Band.
The Daugherty also was in band and french club. There are not a Dougherty and a Daugherty in the clubs.
There is ONLY a Jack Dougherty.
The name Daugherty is an error.


THIS IS JACK EDWIN DOUGHERTY. 
Not Jack Daugherty, there was a Billy Daugherty whom was a Major 1st battalion Commander that same year of '37 but as you see below Jack was not in Battalion. Jack's Daugherty's clubs match up to Dougherty with an O.  Band and French club, no ROTC or Drill, no Battalion.
Daugherty does not match info on Jack Dougherty.
Don't get stuck on an A vs an O.

Sure looks like the same guy twenty years older.

This same person in the yearbook is not there in '38 or '39
JD said he worked for a couple years before joining the service in Oct 24 1942.
This seems too large a gap though.

Mr. BALL - Where did you go to school?

Mr. DOUGHERTY - Sunset High School.

Mr. BALL - You went through Sunset High School?

Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes, sir.

Mr. BALL - What year did you get out of high school? About?

Mr. DOUGHERTY - Oh, 1937.

Mr. BALL - 1937?

Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes.

Mr. BALL - What kind of work did you do after that?

Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, of course, a year or so, you might say--just work in grocery stores until I was 19 and volunteered for the Armed Services in October--October 24, 1942.

Of course he may be saying he worked a year or so at one store and a year or so at another store, which would fill in the gap till he was 19.

This is a work in progress. We can solve this. Be patient.

This has Billy Daugherty in the same '36 yearbook as Jack "Daugherty" with an A.

If our Jack entered the service at 19 years old on Oct 24 1942 he would be born in 1923. Ok

He waits he says for a year or so working in grocery stores till 19 to enter.
Did he graduate at 18 in 1941 then? and not 1942? 
Because if he graduated in June 42 then he only has a few months till he enters.
If it was June 41 then it would be 'a year or so' as he said.

Nice job, Ed. Looks like we finally have an idea what he looked like.

Ed:

I found the same yearbook on ancestry.com and zoomed in their image of the page. The vertical red denotes where I cropped out the middle so to get all of the boys' faces together and zoomed up; kept your number layout.

Another view of this.

ARMY SERIAL NUMBER 18177952

NAME DOUGHERTY JACK E

RESIDENCE STATE 85 TEXAS

RESIDENCE COUNTY 113 DALLAS

PLACE OF ENLISTMENT 8536 DALLAS TEXAS

DATE OF ENLISTMENT DAY 24

DATE OF ENLISTMENT MONTH 10

DATE OF ENLISTMENT YEAR 42

GRADE: ALPHA DESIGNATION PVT Private

GRADE: CODE 8 Private

BRANCH: ALPHA DESIGNATION AC Air Corps

BRANCH: CODE 20 Air Corps

FIELD USE AS DESIRED

TERM OF ENLISTMENT 5 Enlistment for the duration

of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to

the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law

NATIVITY 85 TEXAS

YEAR OF BIRTH 23

RACE AND CITIZENSHIP 1 White, citizen

EDUCATION 4 4 years of high school

CIVILIAN OCCUPATION 992 STUDENT View

MARITAL STATUS 6 Single, without dependents

From Wes Riddle,
Dallas Morning News Archives, Jack had a sister Dorothy and a brother Redfern C Dougherty Jr who was the foster son of George S. Mc Whirt and apparantly did not live with the elder Doughertys. Redfern Jr married Josephine Nash in 1949. He was also an usher at the wedding of Miss Jocyle Harris and James W. Smith the same year. Redfern Sr. of Marsalis Drive in Dallas retired in 1962 after 47 years with Western Union.

If Jack went in Oct 24 1942 and stayed for 2yrs 1mon 10 days = Dec 11 1944 was when he was discharged.

Duncan posted this 1940 yearbook shot of a Jack Dougherty



Could Jack be holding the flag?

I see Gerda distilled the same idea I had



Then this from Ron Smith
"I found Jack Dougherty on pg 147 of the 1941 r.o.t.c. company D. The next year (when Jack had supposedly joined the Air Corps) I found a Jack Daugherty listed in the U.S. Coast Guard. pg141 (1942) yearbook. The next year , 1943 I found Jack Daugherty still in the USCG AND a Redfern Daugherty in the Army. In 1944 I found the same(Jack Daugherty still in the USCG AND a Redfern Daugherty in the Army.) plus a Temple Dougherty in the USCG. Same for 1945."

I did too. Plus Ted Callaway in the '43 marines.
So could the A vs O come back into play with the 1937 grad picture of a Jack Daugherty?
A strike against is no ROTC listed in his activities.
Yet we just saw how the books can get this wrong.

It is easy to say he dropped out in 37 or 41, although we have his records saying 4 years high school.
And of course we have a Jack Dougherty in the 41 book.

Here's a look at the same inset picture circled in orange above. From the ancestry.com image. Perhaps a bit more detail here.

Company D full size image from ancestry.com (only provided link to prevent image sqeeze). I wouldn't be surprised if Duncan's image was from ancestry.com too.

The trick is to now match one of these faces with one of the above faces numbered 1-11.

http://s25.postimg.org/j6ituoqq7/Company_D_1940.jpg

I get #8. But my eyes could be tired because I see Shelley in #9.

Jack Dougherty shows up in the 1934 yearbook. He would be in Junior High and would naturally go through 6 years or till 1940/41
He takes a year or so to clerk in grocery stores and then enter the service.
Again a Billy Dougherty shows up in the '33 book for the class of '36.
I found Billy in the '34 book, company B. While Jack Dougherty is in the "Band", really an ROTC Band. Thus uniforms and rank. So Band is ROTC

so our Jack Daugherty whom "graduated" in '37 was in Band thus an ROTC rank of private at least.

His photo is out there folks, we just gotta ask the right classmate or service members.

Hmmm
Unless an 'Jack Dougherty' is always kept as a student.
You know like a counter espionage program.
Throw off anyone trying to do what we are attempting?
Don't put it past the military and an ex-western union employee to devise a special op involving yearbooks, bad spelling, and future careers in the informant trade, just play dumb and keep your ears open.

...either that or JD is right under our noses, just his name is spelled with an A.
I mean the internet forums have been looking, who knows what media outlets have tried.
The FBI the DPD and DMN alone should have a file photo...nada baby.
I had a kid in my class whom never did the yearbook photos, avoided them all. Of course I took his picture. 


Redfern is Jack's brother, and he was born in 1921.
He shows up in '36 yearbook as ROTC 2nd Lieutenant. Redfern should be graduated and into the service by 1940,,,
so if the family was in Dallas why did Redfern not show up till '36 when younger bro Jack shows up in '34 book? Or is the '34 a wrong spelling?
Redfern's bio list him in the Latin club Sodalitas in '33
He is not there and no listing in El Solita or El Sol that I checked, in case a mistake was made. No Redfern till the '36 book. I looked through them all. 30's -40's
The next year '37 he is Battalion Commander: Major Redfern Dougherty.
Redfern was also a member of the yearbook staff, working on the Stampede section.


As you can see his bio list that in 1934 he was in the ROTC 'crack company' and should be in its pictures. He is not there.

In the '33 yearbook is Bill Daugherty.
He is in Company D and he is listed as Billy Daugherty.
His '36 yearbook picture bio shows he was in '34 ROTC thru '36 and is a Major. He is not in the '33 books stamp club or spanish club.



Class of '36 listing in the '33 book has him as Billy Dougherty

Sa, with oll the canfusian between "A"'s and "O"'s we hove aur wark cut aut far us, huh?

In the old Jack Dougherty thread so much good info was provided.

http://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t176p30-jack-edwin-dougherty

Re: Jack Edwin Dougherty

Post by A DiEugenio Protege on Tue 22 Oct 2013, 9:17 am

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=67466268

(Wrong ones are found almost effortlessly, compared to the one you are searching for.)

http://www.qcwa.org/w5nsq-sk.htm

W5NSQ - August 9, 2008

W5NSQ - Jackson T. 'Jack' Daugherty Jackson T. 'Jack' Daugherty

New Braunfels, TX

QCWA # 7274


http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:xdNdihkADLwJ:www.qcwa.org/w5nsq-sk.htm+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Major Jackson Temple "Jack" Daugherty (US Army Retired) passed away on August 9, 2008 in New Braunfels, Texas. He was born on September 25, 1919 in Amarillo, Texas to Jackson Hamilton Daugherty and Lottie Belle Sargent Daugherty. Jack grew up in Dallas, Texas, graduating from Sunset High School in 1937. He was enrolled in Texas A&M College in 1938 and later enrolled in the University of Texas, studying Business Administration.

He left school to enlist in the U.S. Army on February 14, 1941. After WWII, Jack was assigned to the Armed Forces Special Weapons Project (AFSWP) at Sandia Base, New Mexico. Jack retired from the U.S. Army as a Major in 1961.
Survivors include his wife, Lois, and a daughter. He had a brother Chandler A. Phillips(?) and sister Catherine Alice(?).

So were Billy and Jackson "Jack" Temple Daugherty brothers like our Jack and Redfern Dougherty were?

Interesting that a book was published about the Daugherty family history by a Jackson Temple Daugherty in 1987 (there is a Graphology book by same name published 1989 showing Jackson T Daugherty born 1919) So if we get that book we can see the whole Daugherty family.
http://books.google.com/books/about/History_of_the_Daugherty_family_in_Ameri.html?id=vIVGAAAAMAAJ

It just seems weird that our Jack would say he was out of Sunset in '37 yet a "Jack Dougherty" continues to be in ROTC pictures and USCG unit at Sunset through 1945. Same with Redfern et al, why do they reappear thru '45.
Did they fly back on weekends and summers to help with Camp Dallas and train recruits?
Again Redfern and Jack Dougherty should not be in any yearbook after 1941 and 1942 respectively.

Stan Dane at March 28, 2015 at 12:18 PM

Here's a look at the same inset picture circled in orange above. From the ancestry.com image. Perhaps a bit more detail here.

 

 

I'd have him pegged as white t-shirt guy from the TSBD.

Redfern and Jack's sister Dorothy?

Dorothy Ladeta Dougherty who was born in 1926 according to the Texas Legislative records:

Name Birthdate Sex Mother Father County

==============================================================================================================================

Dougherty, Dorothy Ladeta 10-20-1926 F Mary Kriese R O Dougherty Dallas

http://files.usgwarchives.net/tx/dallas/vitals/births/1926/dallb26c.txt

The Dougherty family from the 1940 Census page.

Mr. BALL - Or, did you see Mr. Truly?

Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, when the FBI men---I imagine it was who it was---he showed me his credentials, but he asked me who the manager was, and I told him, "Mr. Truly." He told me to go find him. Well, I didn't know where he was so I started from the first floor and Just started looking for him, and .by the time I got to the sixth floor, they had found a gun and shells.

Credentials could have been a reporters...and if this happened on the first floor where the reporters were phoning in stories then it makes sense a reporter would ask for the building manager to get a statement for the news wires, and this likely happened while JD is watching the elevator for Shelley.


Now on the Yearbooks listing the Navy Army Marines and Coast Guard.
Makes sense The Sundial started after the war was in swing with listing its alumni and their branch of service.  Rah Rah Uncle Sam!
It called this the Sunset's Roll Of Honor and under the Coast Guard was Jack Daugherty with an A and likely not our Jack as our Jack did not graduate according to him but left in '37 and was in the Army Air Corp or Army.
I followed James Rhotenberry through the years and this is why I say this. Unlikely there were two of them.

I wondered did he, Jack Dougherty take summer school and graduate, but even those folks are listed as such in the Sundial.

Always spelled with an A for both the Jack and Redfern listings on the Roll of Honor.

Stan Dane at March 28, 2015 at 12:00 PM

Ed:

 

I found the same yearbook on ancestry.com and zoomed in their image of the page. The vertical red denotes where I cropped out the middle so to get all of the boys' faces together and zoomed up; kept your number layout.

 

Another view of this.

 

 

Sweet! Thanks Stan.
Now a mug shot of each compared to the class pictures from 1933-43 is what I have in my head.
Since we only know what his brother Redfern looks like a mugshot next to each is better...
None look like any of our known JD's, at least not outright. Maybe 6 has a look like Redfern? Of course 6 could be Jackson Temple Daugherty?
By process of elemination I can go through and just about name them all since pouring over the books and every classmate.
Throw out # 7 R Moore I believe.



1 looks just like the guy in the SW sixth floor window...creeeepy.
Anyways JD if that is whom is in this photo would be 13 in 1936
Would that favor a front row candidate?

Nice freaking work here Ed!

Now that you put it that way, I'd say a front row candidate would make sense for a 13 year old boy.