REOPEN KENNEDY CASE

Another strange thing was the bushes and ground vegetation in the BYPs show they had advanced farther than they had four years later (in the Smee posted image). Who knows? Maybe spring came a little earlier in 1963 than it did in 1967. Another small anomaly.

Terry Martin at September 7, 2015 at 12:17 PM

One thing I was looking at was comparing the BYPs to the image of the site four years later (thanks, Smee!)

I wondered what the discoloration lines on the ground were and the newly posted image made it clear: electrical lines running overhead.

On the left and right are the BYP images from the start of the thread (the third image doesn't show the feet well enough) and the central image is the one taken March 30, 1967.

On the left image the three shadows of the wires lay beyond the pale thing on the ground (whatever it is) and the right hand image shows the first line is now well beyond the pale spot. By my estimation of the travel rate of such shadows, it appears there is a fifteen to twenty minute passage of time from the first to the second.

Now, what's really odd about this passage of time is that it means the Sun was traveling from behind the photographer to a position more over the head of the person being photographed. The weird thing about this is that the shadow of the figure holding the weapons does not fall onto the base of the fence in the left hand photo (just like in the central frame) but in the right hand frame, the shadow falls on the fence.

This latter fact means the Sun was traveling in the opposite direction than the other shadow would indicate. If Lee's shadow has shifted toward the fence, shouldn't the shadow of the lines overhead also have shifted in that direction?

Unless my grasp of spatial mechanics is twisted around backward...

I think you're right about the contradictory advancement of the shadows. All suns rays are parallel, not like from a point source (light bulb). If his shadow gets longer toward the back of the yard, then the wires move toward the back of the yard also, not the other way. The question becomes is his shadow shorter (consistent with the wires moving toward the front of the yard) but now he's standing further toward the back of the yard so that his shadow falls upon the base of the fence anyway. Upon studying the feet realtive to the post and the "pale thing" I think the answer to that question is definitely no.

That was the answer I arrived at as well: "No."

Its a no from me too.

Also as Ed has noted, I'm certainly curious with the rifle shadow in the pic with it leaning to the figures right hand shoulder. I'm more than curious with the fall of that part of the shadow....it may be that my eyes deceive me and that wouldn't be the first time but its worth noting.

Oh no Terry you have it exactly!

The right photo should show the power line shadow moving with the mans shadow, towards the fence, but we see the opposite.

Brilliant!

In the photo-graphs, three horizontal linear shadows may be seen crossing the post in the foreground of the pictures and continuing along the ground behind the subject. These may have been shadows of power cables or some similar object. There is a knot in the post between the lower two shadows that may be used as a visual reference point. The shadows are lowest relative to the knot on 133-C, highest on CE 133-A, and in an intermediate position on CE 133-B. The Sun position would cause the shadows in the backyard pictures to move upward on the post with the passage of time. Therefore, since the shadows were moving upward, 133-C was taken first, followed by CE 133-B, and then CE 133-A. (See figs. IV-IS, IV-2O, and IV-36.) (The possibility of additional intervening photographs cannot be discounted.)



Bart its seems its been asked about before but not measured in situ that I can locate.

Hershel Womack

April 27, 2001

Mike, (Griffith)

I very much enjoyed reading your material and agree with the things you have written [i.e., my article "A Brief Analysis of the Backyard Rifle Photos"]. I have tried in my research to concentrate on items that a person with even a very limited knowledge of photography could understand.

Get 8x10s of the two Warren Report photos and the Roscoe White photo if possible. If not get the largest and best photo from a publication or book and enlarge them so they are identical in size using a couple of reference points. This is because some of the photos have been enlarged and cropped differently.

Then measure from his nose to a common point on each side, do the same to other areas such as the same point on the pistol etc. Measure from identical points at his feet to different points at his heads. Measure the stairpost.

Hershel Womack

April 26, 2001

Mike,

If Lee Harvey Oswald cocked the shutter each time for Marina as she supposedly stated, then how did Oswald's leg stay in the same place relative to the dark area next to his left, photo right knee? Compare in two of the three photos. Measure from the line on the building on the right and measure to different parts of his body and I think you will reach the same conclusion. Note the Roscoe White backyard photo.

Other measurements from a fixed object like the stair post to portions of his body or even the pistol appear to be the same or near so. There's NO WAY you could move and go back to the identical spot and take the same position without drawing the image on the back of the camera.

With this in mind then how did he get taller if neither he nor the camera moved. Maybe the camera was on a tripod and lowered which would make him taller but it would do the same to the post which may be a little taller but the height of Oswald seems out of proportion to that of the post or vice-versa.

Hershel Womack

(PS in my above post I meant MC ring)

Smee at September 7, 2015 at 11:09 AM

...then again...

http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/full-length-portrait-of-john-cappel-taken-to-recreate-a-news-photo/171684763

Bravo Smee!

I took Capelle whom was LHO's 69" height and overlaid LHO by resizing LHO image and matching the post and stairs.



What do you think?

I should have split the post so half is Capelle pic and half LHo pic ...next time.

Split the post for the overlay

Hmm quite a difference in apparent height

I tinted one of the BYP and adjusted the size of it to match up with size of the edge of the garage, the posts, and the stairs in the other black and white one. I had to slightly tilt the image to make things line up. Got it as close as I could. Then I overlaid the green image on top of the B&W picture, and varying the transparencies, I made a gif. Just felt like trying it to see how it looked.

The background is very static.

Stan,

Looking at the BYPs, and your comment that the background is very static, it strikes me that the original BYPs all look to me like the camera was mounted on a tripod or something - I'd be surprised if someone using the Imperial Reflex as Marina claimed she did, who'd apparently never even seen one before, would manage to get such consistency!?!? I may be wrong though as I'm no photographic expert...

This view is out front looking west, 212 Neely is on left. Recall that the BYP's are looking east. Note the shadows in the street of the wires halfway up the pole and how at this time of day (a few hours earlier than the BYP using the pole as a sun dial and comparing the angle to LHO's shadow in backyard) the wires cut right onto the house and would therefore appear on the ground in the Back Yard in the correct area seen in Terry's analysis.

Here's another shot. Don't be fooled by the wires going down to the house service. They stop on the face of that wall. They don't cast shadows on the back yard, but the wires halfway up the poles running down the alley do cast shadows onto the back yard.

Excellent work, Jake!

I wonder what happened to the houses on either side...

Terry Martin at September 8, 2015 at 11:32 AM

Excellent work, Jake!

I wonder what happened to the houses on either side...

They were raised to the ground........:P

Also note that the post in question has the wire shadows on it too. Two are higher, and one is down lower, just like on the ground beside it (amazing!) yet as PM's shadow get's longer, the wires go lower on the post. Welcome to a modest back yard behind a small house on Neely Street in Dallas, TX where up is down and where longer is shorter. Welcome, if you will, to the Twilight Zone.

I think you've nailed another one there Terry!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a9gvqfcjgg

1978 HSCA Testimony of Sgt.Cecil Kirk ~ Director, Mobile Crime Laboratory, Metropolitan Police Department, Washington, D.C.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlkzBIqvvWU

RIT Study of Lee Harvey Oswald Backyard Photos

Bring on uncle Jesse 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJBbzqguKq4

Barto at September 8, 2015 at 11:36 AM

Terry Martin at September 8, 2015 at 11:32 AM

Excellent work, Jake!

I wonder what happened to the houses on either side...

They were raised to the ground........:P

Reminds me of my Grandfather, whom had two wooden legs after an accident.
He caught fire one day and burned to the ground.

Excellent finds and reasoning Jake!
Twilight Zone? Maybe. But only The Shadow knows...