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Ed Ledoux
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I am assuming Oswald would take his shaving kit with him for the weekend stay at Irving.
He didn't we are led to believe.

Oswalds Tiny Room?

Mrs. Roberts, who cleaned up all the rooms daily, said Oswald was neat and clean, ate a lot of fruit, made coffee and sandwiches in his tiny room and kept no late hours.

“He was always in bed by 9:30 or 10 p.m.,” she said. Mr. Johnson said he noted Oswald would retire early and listen to his small radio.

He had no pictures in the room, only a lamp on a small stand, an ancient vanity dresser and a small clothesholder.

Johnson said Oswald “always talked in that foreign language when he talked on the phone.” Mrs. Roberts said, “He dialed that BL number (Irving) a lot.”

Both agreed that Oswald never spent a weekend there. He left after work Friday night and didn’t return until Monday night.

“I didn’t know him by name,” said another roomer. “I just took it for granted he didn’t like people. Everybody left him alone.”

Oswald apparently didn’t have any clothes in his small room. “Just a few pieces,” said the housekeeper, “but he had a big zipper bag he stuffed things into.”

She said he liked to read Westerns, but she had never noted any mail, pictures, addresses and such when she cleaned up.

FBI and Secret Service men grabbed up his few belongings before the press arrived, but Mrs. Roberts said one thing she noticed was a map of Dallas.

A police officer who helped search the man’s apartment said he found “Communist literature,” a picture of Red Square and a book believed to contain Russian ration stamps.

Shoot didn't need the cops to search the room, sounds like the Johnson's and Roberts did that daily! 'Gee Lets See What Mr Lee Has To Read Today While He Is At Work Or At Irving'

Did he not take his toothbrush?


The above photo shows the items that were supposedly at the small room #1 at Beckley.
Note this photo is not taken at Beckley but at DPD.
As you can see his shaving kit and toothbursh and toothpaste are with the items taken from Beckley

Of note, no pictures exist that I know of with LHO's belongings in place at Beckley.
Anyone have a pic of Lee Oswald's personal effects in situ?

How about his belt?
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/01/0183-001.gif
Taken from him early on?
Of course don't want LHO to hang with his own belt, but how about those bullets?

And the Humble Oil Map?
Wow it looks like it was Kennedy's they got from Washington DC.  http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/01/0193-001.gif
I mean the LNr's have been saying the other inventory with the Bakery Receipt and Cox Box Top were from 1026 N. Beckely because it says so at the bottom of the inventory.  http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/01/0190-001.gif ; :lol:

But seriously besides toothpaste we have a room that was not likely ever rented, room "#1" and a rear building, detatched, which was not part of the "register" and room count.
There is about 2000+ sq feet in the main house and this would be a ground floor and basement, each having eight rooms.
The oddball is the tiny room off the dining room for room number 17.

The red bricked and white back house in alley was LHO's per Tosh Plumlee. Not the two story tan house.
Tan house would be full of Cubans? :/

"This is the apartment house behind the Beckley St rooming house. I was recently call a liar as to the existence of this apartment house. I was told I was wrong that there was not ANY buildings behind where Oswald lived on Beckley. This is the place where I carved my intials in the drainingborad in the kitcken.

The steps of the red house on the left is the room Oswald rented. Oswald was ONI at this time.

(photo taken by Tosh Plumlee Feb.2000)"





It may even have a basement!...But can you picture 11/22/63 in an hurried attempt to set Oswald up in the 'front room' and one of the Cubans or Johnsons grabbing up LHO's stuff and running it over to the tiny rooms window of the main house, where his blue and black bag is shoved through the window snags a curtain and bends the rod...:D
Perhaps the tiny room was set up as early as Thursday Evening when LHO didn't show up.
Perhaps Lee was in another room in the house that looked out on the back house.
I would enjoy a full video tour of the Beckley property address and associated buildings.

Picture of Nash Rambler. This auto was used by Cecil Fardandez who lived at the apartment house behind where Oswald rented the Beckley St room. There was a picture of it parked at the 'Harlandale' house (another safe house in Oak Cliff) where some of the "Dallas Cubans" also lived. That picture has been lost by the FBI, I am told. ~ Tosh Plumlee

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/in...pic=12358&st=0


March 2, 2015 at 3:38 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Colin Crow
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Mr. BALL. Were you there when Oswald brought his clothes into the room?

Mrs. JOHNSON. No; what do you mean?

Mr. BALL. Now, you rented the room to him on the 14th?

Mrs. JOHNSON. Yes.

Mr. BALL. Did he move in on that same day?

Mrs. JOHNSON. Yes, sir; and he had his clothes with him.

Mr. BALL. He had his clothes with him?

Mrs. JOHNSON. Yes, sir; he just had a little old bag of clothes, these little bags you get when you are in the service.

Mr. BALL. A duffelbag?

Mrs. JOHNSON. Yes.

Mr. BALL. That's all he had?

Mrs. JOHNSON. That's all he had.

 

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From what I can find this type of Marine sea bag had dimensions 35” x 12”. It was this type of bag that the WC inferred the rifle was transported in in the trips to and fro between Dallas and New Orleans. The ones that were unpacked by Michael Paine. Pythagoras suggests that this bag could contain a 37” object.

 

Mr. BALL. Let me ask you this: did he, that weekend, that was [b]the weekend before the assassination, on a Saturday, [/b]make a trip to a place where they wash clothes?

Mrs. JOHNSON. Well, I think that he did go across to that washateria. I think he did.

Mr. BALL. Did you see him go any place, go out of the house except for that on that weekend?

Mrs. JOHNSON. That's the only time and I had just forgotten that but I do remember he carried some clothes out of that house that morning and the washateria is right across the street, less than a block.

Mr. BALL. But he left his room?

Mrs. JOHNSON. And he wasn't gone long and I didn't see him return with any clothes but I do know he was gone just about long enough to do a wash.

 


 

We have two trips to the laundromat across the street from the rooming house in the space of 4 days. The next day (Thursday) he could have taken his washing to Marina but was not seen to do so. Why did he fail to bring washing to the Paine's that Thursday?

 

Why was this deviation of his normal routine not reported by anyone?

March 2, 2015 at 7:03 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Terry Martin
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You guys are always finding more dirty laundry in this case aren't you?


And wasn't that the "sea bag" that was found in Ruth's garage? Or did it, too, have a doppelganger?

March 2, 2015 at 8:40 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Colin Crow
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According to Ruth there were 2 duffel bags that went to and came back from NO. It appears that if the rifle was transported a duffel bag was the only possibility

March 2, 2015 at 4:16 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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March 2, 2015 at 4:52 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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March 2, 2015 at 4:55 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Ed Ledoux
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I chased after those sea bags.
Only excuse is that ever came of the missing sea bags, missing photo's of the sea bags, etc, seems to be that Robert took one. Maybe..Okay but that was later, and it was one bag. LHO had two duffle/sea bags with his name on them.
The point is the sea bags are to small to fit the Carcano 91/38 even broken down your short by an inch.
Why else wrap your rifle in a baby blanket? :lol:
Anyways, It looks like Lee did not take any of the things a normal person would take with them for a weekend stay....
The laundry, a shaving kit, a tooth brush and tooth paste, a change of clothes, nothing, he takes nothing. No book he maybe reading...nope, nothing.
I still say a sea bag was loaded with stuff from Paines garage and called "Beckley Items" even though nothing was ever at Beckley, at least not the tiny room #1.
The items were never photographed in place at Beckley? Why not?
Your going to recover evidence from a residence you have a warrant to search, and the charge is to be murder on two counts??
Searching the room you find a holster.
You:
A. document its location and bag and tag the evidence.
or
B. you stuff that crap in a bag and leave.

DPD choose B

I would enjoy the heck out of a smart counselor asking questions about this at trial....

So called "Register" says O H Lee, its been said this was a DPD safehouse. Wink Wink
So if its a safe house for the police who the hell is registering under their own names?
These might be witnesses or something, can't have them saying whom they really are. Wink Wink

The Johnsons could have spared themselves a bit of guilt by association that they felt after the assassination, but this could have been mitigated by being a little more truthful with America and tell the real story of whom she rented too. How she really kept books. Whom was renting at the time Mr Lee was so they could be contacted to verify the story is correct.
NO she hid all this shit from the public, so I feel no remorse for Gladys or anything she or her relatives had to suffer as the result, guilt by association etc.
Its her own damn fault. Show us the real register. Show us the real receipts.
She is dead but her daughter is not and continues the dog and pony show at 1026 Beckley,  restricted to room #1.
I would rather see the basement and rear building. Would be way more educational.

Plumlee carving his initials into the kitchen drain board, and other items need to be found and preserved because they tell part of the story that someone doesn't want told.

Those dirty unlaundered little secrets.

March 2, 2015 at 11:27 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Ed Ledoux
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Greg at March 2, 2015 at 4:55 PM

Did she get a lot of Cuban's doing laundry? ;)

1032 N Beckley?

Apartment G?

You mean she lived one door down from OH Lee, and maybe in the back :lol:


Seriously though this is a great witness, not for laundry related matters, but maybe for whom had lived in the alley!


March 3, 2015 at 12:43 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Greg
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Ed, thanks for asking all the sane simple logical questions that should have been asked over and over from day one until answered.


I think you might be on to something with the seabag... all that waiting by the cops at one site and srriving before officially knowing the address at the other may somehow fit with this scenario.


March 3, 2015 at 1:48 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Lee Farley
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Don't have the details to hand and I'm going from memory here but I'm sure there is a report of a sighting of "Oswald" in a laundromat AFTER the assassination somewhere close to Jefferson.  Don't have time today to search for it but it may be on one of my threads over at the old forum.


P.S. If anyone is trying to email me or has tried over the last few weeks I don't currently have access to my email.  Having problems on and off for months and now having blue murder with my ISP at present.  Please use PM facility for the time being.

March 3, 2015 at 2:37 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Lee Farley at March 3, 2015 at 2:37 AM

Don't have the details to hand and I'm going from memory here but I'm sure there is a report of a sighting of "Oswald" in a laundromat AFTER the assassination somewhere close to Jefferson.  Don't have time today to search for it but it may be on one of my threads over at the old forum.


P.S. If anyone is trying to email me or has tried over the last few weeks I don't currently have access to my email.  Having problems on and off for months and now having blue murder with my ISP at present.  Please use PM facility for the time being.

Lee, now that you mention, it does ring a bell. I'll see what I dig up.

March 3, 2015 at 3:26 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Greg
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Couldn't find it - but did find this and the two threads should be read together - perhaps also with Mick Purdy's "rider" thread Randle and Frazier Contradictions

March 3, 2015 at 3:37 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Colin Crow
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The after assassination laundrette sighting.

 

http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/utils/getfile/collection/po-arm/id/33771/filename/33760.pdfpage/page/3

 

http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/utils/getfile/collection/po-arm/id/33771/filename/33760.pdfpage/page/4

 

http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/utils/getfile/collection/po-arm/id/33771/filename/33761.pdfpage/page/5

 

http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/utils/getfile/collection/po-arm/id/33771/filename/33762.pdfpage/page/6

 


March 3, 2015 at 6:39 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Colin Crow
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Ed, I don't think that the toothbrush and shave kit are suspicious. Easy to imagine an estranged husband having toiletries in both residences. The Saturday laundry run is understandable as he was not visiting Irving that weekend. It is the late night visit on Wednesday that is most intriguing to me. Why not simply take the black zipped bag of clothes to Irving Thursday and get some fresh clothes from Marina?

March 3, 2015 at 6:52 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Greg
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The toiletries kit in both residences occurred to me too., Colin... but if taken and pgotographed from one residence, why not the other?  

March 3, 2015 at 7:20 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Ed Ledoux
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I believe its was his only toilet/shaving kit.
Here we see the remaining items Ruth gave to Robert on Dec 8th which include one sea bag and a shaving brush, also is a case for a electric shaver but not the shaver. No other toilet or shaving items, no tooth brushes etc.
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh25/pdf/WH25_CE_2557.pdf

Toothbrush at Beckley
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/18/1825-060.gif
Razor and blades at Beckley
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/18/1825-053.gif
The hand brush or scrub brush is at Beckley
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/18/1825-011.gif
Nailclippers also at Beckley
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/18/1825-015.gif
Deodrorant also at Beckley
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/18/1825-016.gif
Shaving kit, you guessed it at Beckley
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/18/1825-029.gif

What is suspicious is the totality of not taking anything he may have normally.
No clothes, no sack for the clothes, nothing to groom himself with not even a comb?
I can see him perhaps using Marina's toothbrush in a pinch, even a ladies razor if he didn't get caught by Marina.
But the lack of a laundry sack for the last trip is nearly too good to be true.
Of course if Lee did carry a sac or sea bag that morning it would morph into a large paper bag.
Mrs. Roberts is of no use telling us if the "Lee" whom rushed in had anything in his hands, like a sea bag or sac, or even the black and blue bag supposedly found in room #1.
Items from Paine House


Missing pair of Binoculars?!? 
http://www.miniaturebinoculars.com/page0034.htm
Showing here the two pairs binoculars in the picture. BUT SAYS ONE PAIR BECKLEY ONE PAIR IRVING! Either this is a mistake or they moved items around?
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/21/2110-001.gif

The inventory,
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/00/0031-001.gif      ;
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/00/0036-001.gif
'hand written' 
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/00/0039-001.gif
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/03/0318-001.gif
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/03/0318-002.gif
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/03/0318-003.gif

http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/00/0030-001.gif
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/02/0218-001.gif   ; says "negatives" plural about BY photos.
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/01/0113-001.gif  ; The item list typed, no toiletries or grooming items.
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/01/0117-001.gif
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/01/0113-002.gif  ; The rest of the list, only item of interest is the CORD singular used to tie up the blanket aka "the gun case" Of note that "CORD" can be seen in the picture above on the floor.
It has what appears to be a knot and the cord seems cut. Of course the FBI lab would tells us all about the Cord.

Here are items sent or released to FBI
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/07/0777-001.gif

See a cord?

Here we have an additional list.
Note at the bottom it gives LHO address as 2515, as compared to the arrest inventory sheet with his Beckley address, and then "Found at 2515.." below that. This is a double qualifier. He lives there and these items were found there, unlike Beckley.     http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/01/0192-001.gif 

And the MAP!
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/01/0193-001.gif
From Beckley   http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/18/1825-029.gif

Ruth's items Rose and Stovall collected, see margin note to "HOLD DO NOT REL"ease by Rose
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/01/0195-001.gif

A mix of Ruth's and Lee's items? Note the Youth Pictures and Literature.
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/03/0348-001.gif

Ruth's notebook with Note from Fritz on 2-7-64 to release to Ruth
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/01/0106-001.gif

The tube and paper bags tied on ends, Ruth's garage items.
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/16/1651-001.gif

A Mexican 20 cent coin at Beckley, rock solid proof LHO was in Mexico  :roll:
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/18/1825-038.gif


But my favorite evidence sheet of all time is this one.
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/14/1410-001.gif
Here all the other evidence is given exacting locations and the floor it was found on, eg 6th Floor 411 Elm South East Window.
Some items reference several pages to describe the finding and location, eg the spent rounds.
BUT for the paper sack....just 411 Elm....or more precisely somewhere in the building, we don't know.... oy vey!




And of course there is the 3610 Beckley address on the PO Box registration for FPCC and ACLU on November 1st 11/1/63
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/14/1418-001.gif
One can only assume LHO was keeping the Beckley rooming house a secreet from the FBI and Hosty.
But why then give an Beckley street address?
Why give an address to the Post Office which is quite aware of the addresses that exist and do not exist.
If it is a simple mistake why not correct it, or why did the PO not correct it or verify it?
This is at a time when LHO is receiving mail also at the Paine's residence. See the notice for mail in list of items from Paine's.(the lost package at the dead letter office)

The Renault and 1026 Beckley
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/marysdb/showRec.do;jsessionid=73560A7CC568409942C1BFC185AA47C9?id=7962

The stolen Renault car, drunks and various complaints at 1026 N Beckley
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh25/html/WC_Vol25_0470b.htm



This shows the American Bakeries stub was found on Oswald's person
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/18/1825-063.gif


And while I'm at it here is the grey jacket and the TSBD WINDOW LEDGE WOOD STRIP 1x1x30"
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/22/2281-001.gif



March 3, 2015 at 3:52 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Ed Ledoux
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Greg at March 3, 2015 at 3:37 AM

Couldn't find it - but did find this and the two threads should be read together - perhaps also with Mick Purdy's "rider" thread Randle and Frazier Contradictions

Thanks for reminding me of the long hunt for sea bags. :roll:

No seriously that was a humdinger of a thread.  Glad you reposted this.




March 3, 2015 at 4:07 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Ed Ledoux
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Hugh Aynesworth recalls,

I rode back to the office with a radio newsman and briefed the desk on what had taken place and what I had seen. Ewell went back to the station and was trying to find out the suspect's address so we could get in his home to see what of interest might be found there.

The first address we got was on old one --- where Oswald and his wife and small child lived more than a year before, shortly after their return from Russia. That was on Elsbeth Street.
What was the address 605?

Two little old ladies lived there when I went scrambling up to the door to ask if Lee Harvey Oswald lived here. They seemed afraid. I imagine that my face must have shown some of the incredulous things I had seen that day. I explained my purpose there.

They invited me in to use the phone and I called the office and then Ewell again at City Hall. No later address.

"I'll bet he was that one with the wife that didn't speak English and used to hang clothes out there," said one of the women, pointing toward the rear of house.

I thanked them and ran like mad toward the other apartment.     Okay a small side street apartment, was that 602 Elsbeth or another apartment you could see from Elsbeth apartments? Neely back yard is not exactly visible but is near enough to account for the clothes hanging info. Perhaps the alley was used that ran from Neely to the back of Elsbeth and off street parking. So anyone living at Elsbeth and parking in the rear would use that alley way next to the Neely apartment.

"Don't answer it," I heard a voice rasp in reply to the hurried knock.

I thought, "Boy, you've got it. Some of his accomplices are there!"

I kept knocking and I heard argument in undertones in the small side street apartment. Finally, a half-clad woman, obviously drunken, for we could smell the wine, peered out.

"What do you want?" she asked. "C'mer," shouted the male voice as he fell over a table, chair or something getting up.

I asked for Lee Harvey Oswald, if they knew him, if he lived here. A grunt or two and the door slammed.

I felt that with millions of people wanting to know who, what, how and why about this murderer, here were two people so oblivious to everything that they wanted only to be back in each other's arms. No accomplices these!

I combed every house within two blocks --- still hoping I could get there first to ransack what must have been a madman's room.

Finally two hours and two tired feet later I returned to The News office. Ewell came up with another address, 1026 N. Beckley.


Mrs. Roberts recalled the now star-boarder running in about 1 p.m. as she sat watching the TV coverage of the assassination.

"Boy you're in a hurry," she said. He hasn't replied yet. She told us Oswald (Mr. Lee as she knew him) had hesitated at the front of the house a moment, then started running down Beckley Street south.

"Oh yes," she said as an afterthought, "he changed his jacket."

The police officers had removed everything from the room except a box of matches, a Mexican ashtray and some banana peelings.



What to make of the smoking materials in the tiny room #1?
The Mexican ashtray never was seen again! Hugh must have put it with his bail bondsman ashtray in his office :D

When Hall's grandmother, Gladys Johnson, learned of his plot - and endured relentless door knocks from reporters and death threats in the aftermath - she scrubbed his name from the home's records.

 

'She was scared, humiliated,' Hall said. 'And, in fact, she even destroyed the sign-in sheets showing that he had paid his rent. She just wanted to erase him.'

 

 

Please watch the video below carefully a couple times for yourself and reply.
Note the sheets and bed placement in photos and videos, among other things, listen to the stories and think about them compare them to what you are witnessing and what was possible.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3445_162-57594583/a-peek-inside-lee-harvey-oswalds-room/

http://oakcliff.advocatemag.com/2013/07/would-you-pay-500000-for-the-oswald-rooming-house/



VERY IMPORTANT YOU WATCH THE VIDEO AND LISTEN TO WHAT GLADY'S DID, AND WHEN.

March 3, 2015 at 7:42 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Colin Crow at March 3, 2015 at 6:39 AM

The after assassination laundrette sighting.

 

http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/utils/getfile/collection/po-arm/id/33771/filename/33760.pdfpage/page/3

 

http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/utils/getfile/collection/po-arm/id/33771/filename/33760.pdfpage/page/4

 

http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/utils/getfile/collection/po-arm/id/33771/filename/33761.pdfpage/page/5

 

http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/utils/getfile/collection/po-arm/id/33771/filename/33762.pdfpage/page/6

 


Colin,


have only just gotten around to checking this out.


The laundromat was 1.6 miles from the N Beckley BH, 2.1 miles from E 10th and Patton and 1.4 miles from the Texas Theatre. This guy abandoned his car and headed south on N Clinton -  if this person was heading to any of those destinations, it was most likely the TT - a 28 minute walk according to google - but that's obviously at a leisurely pace. 


It sounds all too familiar. Looked like LHO, drove a light colored station wagon (make unknown), made a phone call in Spanish, looked scared/or running from trouble, medium brown jacket with dark brown vertical stripes...


The Pennington's could only peg the time as between noon and 1pm.  To be Oswald (or indeed, to be assassinated-related at all), it had to be after 12:30. I find it difficult to believe that anyone living in Dallas could mistake Spanish for any other language. If this was an Oswald look-alike, deliberate or otherwise,  I suggest he was indeed, Mexican, Cuban or spoke Spanish fluently and associated with Mexican and/or Cubans.


Bledsoe had her man speaking in Spanish on the phone.  (From memory, Texas, born and bred. Could she possibly mistake Russian for Spanish?). 


Was this the person seen by Brewer and taken out the back of the TT? 



March 5, 2015 at 8:01 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Ed Ledoux at March 3, 2015 at 7:42 PM

Hugh Aynesworth recalls,

I rode back to the office with a radio newsman and briefed the desk on what had taken place and what I had seen. Ewell went back to the station and was trying to find out the suspect's address so we could get in his home to see what of interest might be found there.

The first address we got was on old one --- where Oswald and his wife and small child lived more than a year before, shortly after their return from Russia. That was on Elsbeth Street.
What was the address 605?

Two little old ladies lived there when I went scrambling up to the door to ask if Lee Harvey Oswald lived here. They seemed afraid. I imagine that my face must have shown some of the incredulous things I had seen that day. I explained my purpose there.

They invited me in to use the phone and I called the office and then Ewell again at City Hall. No later address.

"I'll bet he was that one with the wife that didn't speak English and used to hang clothes out there," said one of the women, pointing toward the rear of house.

I thanked them and ran like mad toward the other apartment.     Okay a small side street apartment, was that 602 Elsbeth or another apartment you could see from Elsbeth apartments? Neely back yard is not exactly visible but is near enough to account for the clothes hanging info. Perhaps the alley was used that ran from Neely to the back of Elsbeth and off street parking. So anyone living at Elsbeth and parking in the rear would use that alley way next to the Neely apartment.

"Don't answer it," I heard a voice rasp in reply to the hurried knock.

I thought, "Boy, you've got it. Some of his accomplices are there!"

I kept knocking and I heard argument in undertones in the small side street apartment. Finally, a half-clad woman, obviously drunken, for we could smell the wine, peered out.

"What do you want?" she asked. "C'mer," shouted the male voice as he fell over a table, chair or something getting up.

I asked for Lee Harvey Oswald, if they knew him, if he lived here. A grunt or two and the door slammed.

I felt that with millions of people wanting to know who, what, how and why about this murderer, here were two people so oblivious to everything that they wanted only to be back in each other's arms. No accomplices these!

I combed every house within two blocks --- still hoping I could get there first to ransack what must have been a madman's room.

Finally two hours and two tired feet later I returned to The News office. Ewell came up with another address, 1026 N. Beckley.


Mrs. Roberts recalled the now star-boarder running in about 1 p.m. as she sat watching the TV coverage of the assassination.

"Boy you're in a hurry," she said. He hasn't replied yet. She told us Oswald (Mr. Lee as she knew him) had hesitated at the front of the house a moment, then started running down Beckley Street south.

"Oh yes," she said as an afterthought, "he changed his jacket."

The police officers had removed everything from the room except a box of matches, a Mexican ashtray and some banana peelings.



What to make of the smoking materials in the tiny room #1?
The Mexican ashtray never was seen again! Hugh must have put it with his bail bondsman ashtray in his office :D

When Hall's grandmother, Gladys Johnson, learned of his plot - and endured relentless door knocks from reporters and death threats in the aftermath - she scrubbed his name from the home's records.

 

'She was scared, humiliated,' Hall said. 'And, in fact, she even destroyed the sign-in sheets showing that he had paid his rent. She just wanted to erase him.'

 

 

Please watch the video below carefully a couple times for yourself and reply.
Note the sheets and bed placement in photos and videos, among other things, listen to the stories and think about them compare them to what you are witnessing and what was possible.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3445_162-57594583/a-peek-inside-lee-harvey-oswalds-room/

http://oakcliff.advocatemag.com/2013/07/would-you-pay-500000-for-the-oswald-rooming-house/



VERY IMPORTANT YOU WATCH THE VIDEO AND LISTEN TO WHAT GLADY'S DID, AND WHEN.

This deserves the Fez treatment to make sure everyone sees it. VERY IMPORTANT YOU WATCH THE VIDEO AND LISTEN TO WHAT GLADY'S DID, AND WHEN.:mad::mad::mad:


Even tho I've seen the room before, I obviously didn't really look too closely. But looking at it now, and hearing what Gladys did as "soon as she heard" what Oswald was accused of... it just about seals it for me. No freakin way was Oswald living there... and I think it's possible this was a police safe house - which would be one reason for them to go along with it, tho I believe the lure of a financial winfall might have also played into the thinking.

March 5, 2015 at 8:56 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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