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Jack Edwin Dougherty


Jack Edwin Dougherty left Sunset High School in 1937 (at the age of 14?) according to his Warren Commission testimony, he worked in grocery stores for a year or so and then signed up in Oct. 1942. This is something that doesn’t add up.

Mr. BILL. How old are you?
Mr. BALL. Where were you born?
Mr. DOUGHERTY. Here in Dallas.
Mr. BALL. Where did you go to school?
Mr. DOUGHERTY. Sunset High School.
Mr. Ball. You went through Sunset High School?
Mr. DOUGHERTY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. What year did you get out of high school? About?
Mr. DOUGHERTY. Oh, 1937.
Mr. BALL. 1937?
Mr. BALL. What kind of work did you do after that?
Mr. DOUGHERTY. Well, of course, a year or so, you might say-just work in grocery stores until I was 19 and volunteered for the Armed Services in October-October 24, 1942.

During Jack Dougherty’s Warren Commission testimony, Dougherty sometimes proves to be very precise with dates and also be able to account for times he spent in the military, but he mixes things up that when he is asked when he started his employment at the TSBD he answers Sept. 1940 which would not have been possible and after being asked the question again he answers 1952. To this day there is no answer as to where he started and what he did for work from Sept 1940. Overall he leaves the impression of someone who is very confused and keeps making ‘mistakes’ regarding times and his whereabouts ,where he exactly was.

This is something that S.A. Blake of the Secret Service noticed as well in early Dec. 1963 when he took a statement of Jack Dougherty. See the gallery below.

Another interesting fact is that Joseph Ball refers to earlier statements to ‘guide’ him since he is making a lot of mistakes answering, if only Marrion Baker got the very same ‘help’ with that bullshit 2nd floor encounter with Roy Truly and Oswald…..

There is another issue with Dougherty, after hearing one (!) loud bang he takes the West elevator down and speaks with Eddie Piper. If Dougherty went down by elevator then that doesn’t chime with Truly’s story that the elevators were high up on the 5th floor. He also takes the elevator back up again. Roy Truly thought he saw Dougherty working on the fifth floor, Dougherty said he didn’t hear anyone yell up through the elevator shaft. Dougherty didn’t see anybody else on the fifth floor. But we also know that James Jarman, Bonnie Ray Williams and Harold Norman were there, and neither of them saw him either. But on the fifth floor the boxes in front of the window were stacked up high so visually that may have been the case, but I for one think that the floor and elevator would have produced enough noise for anyone on that floor to be aware of other people(s) presence!

Roy Truly describes Dougherty as someone of having an average intelligence, something we have heard before with Baker as well. Yet at the same time one needs to take into consideration that this man with average intelligence had quite a responsible job by being at the TSBD at 7 AM, one hour before the rest of the workers would arrive for work.  As per his Warren Commission testimony he described his job during that hour: “I have to see to it that the water system is pumped up. In other words, the air pressure is up to where-up to 40 pounds so that if it isn’t pumped up, the alarm goes off, and the ADT runs that alarm system, and we immediately call Mr. Truly and of course they call me.”

Dougherty also stated that he saw Oswald come into work, but he was not carrying anything in his hand, which contradicts Buell Wesley Frazier’s testimony.

Then there is the question whether Dougherty was part of the floor laying crew on the 6th floor or not. See the document in the gallery below. Two employees in their first statements, both placed Dougherty among the floor layers, Dougherty being one of them.  Both later made a second list and omitted his name from it.

On the 12th of March  1964, a memo was sent from W.C. lawyer Melvin A. Eisenberg.  Eisenberg writes to J. Lee Rankin and sets out his suspicions regarding the testimony and actions of Jack Edwin Dougherty. The memo was sent approximately one month before Dougherty was due to give his sworn testimony. Yet not much of these concerns were discussed in depth during Dougherty’s W.C. testimony.


Dougherty makes it down from the fifth floor down to the first and while being interviewed by Gill Toff is asked about whether he saw a white helmeted officer besides Truly.

Q: coming inaudible in the building right? And Mr Truly was down there and did you see a police officer come in with a big helmet on his head? You know a white helmet, a police officer come running in the building at all like right away?

JD:       No, I didn’t.

A little later in that same interview Dougherty claims that Oswald was eating his lunch in the second floor lunch room, which isn’t true at all. If he sees Oswald in the second floor lunch room after he has finished his lunch (what was the reason for him to go to the second fl lunch room after his lunch in the first place when he was going for the sixth).  But then he changes his mind to seeing him on two while Dougherty went downstairs. Quite a changeover. But that only says he sees him on the second floor, where Oswald went to get his coke for his lunch.

If Oswald at that time was eating his lunch n the second floor lunch room, then he would have been spotted by many office workers. Yet no one did. The second floor was off limits for hanging around let alone have lunch for labourers. They had the Domino room for lunch.

Q:         Did anybody tell you, for instance, you like Oswald probably if he was up on the sixth floor headed truly downstairs too, cause someone saw him down there on second floor, pretty fast

JD:       Yes, they had to, but I don’t know who it was.

Q:         You don’t know what?

JD:       I don’t know who it was, who saw him come down.

Q:         Did you see him at all that day do you remember?

JD:       Well, just downstairs in the lunch room, was about all.

Q:         But that was when you were having lunch right?

JD:       Yes, uh huh.

Q:         And he was having lunch in there too?

JD:       No, I was downstairs having lunch and he was having lunch upstairs on two.

Q:         Oh he had lunch on two? And you had lunch on one?

JD:       Yes.

Q:         And did you see him have lunch before you had it or after?

JD:       That was after.

Q:         You had your lunch first and then you saw him at lunch?

JD:       Well, I come down and I saw him on two see and then I went downstairs and had mine.

Q:         And he was already in eating?

JD:       Yes uh huh.

Later on during the same interview Dougherty doubles down by claiming that Truly was In his office for a while after he had come down and was later asked to go find him by an F.B.I. agent.

 Q:         I know cause he, he kinda helped out somewhat, according to them, to their statement.  Did you happen to eh, you know you said you came back downstairs and someone said go and see Mr Truly or go find Mr Truly, was he in the office at the time?

JD:       No, he was upstairs on another floor.

Q:         So when you came downstairs the first floor Mr Truly was in his office right?

JD:       Yes, for a while.

Q:         For a while, but then, you stayed downstairs for a while and then some FBI man came in you say and told you to go find him for him?

JD:       Yes, uh huh.

Q:         And did you ever find out where he was, Mr Truly?

JD:       No, no I never did find out.


Very strange Dougherty mentions Oswald and his presence in the second floor lunchroom as according to his handwritten and typed up FBI statements from the 23rd he did not see him after 11 AM! His Warren Commission testimony confirms this as well. I would take the whole 2nd floor lunch room story with a huge grain of salt.