REOPEN KENNEDY CASE

Each name was called off for warehouse employees and Lee Oswald was absent.

After this Report by R. W. Westphal, Ganaway claimed that this was the reason for the broadcast description ...really No Name and Address but a vague description was broadcast even though, as Ganaway admits, this was due to Lee not being at this roll call.

Well if you had a name why not broadcast it with a description. Why? Because DPD had no such roll call, no such idea whom was missing, or what the 'missing' persons name was.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?mode=searchResult&absPageId=1156950

Wesley Frazier described the roll call in detail and how he heard Lee's name but figured Lee had already left.

Wesley claims a roll call happened. Was Wes at that roll call?

We know Wesley's name was missing from this roll call sheet with 55 names, although his sister made the cut for a while till being crossed off.

Did he give his sisters name? Hmm He doesn't look like a Linnie Mae.

Wesley said he was there and he did hear Lee's name called out. Did he hear Lee's name called out first and wander around trying to find his friend?

What should we believe about Wes and his roll call recollections?

Why is his name not on that roll call sheet if he was there?

It is claimed that 33 warehouse workers were associated with the Elm Street location that day.

CE 1381 includes the names and a quick statement of 73 persons whom worked in the TSBD on 11/22

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh22/pdf/WH22_CE_1381.pdf

Some problems with a roll call from the outset., even the list the DPD provides only 55 names.

Roy "Ray" Lewis and Terrence "Lawrence" Ford are added twice. So only 53 names on the list.

We know this is a 11/22 roll call list because it has WPAA's Terrence Ford's name.

He was trapped with reporters

Pierce Allman,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tsR8PGx2ZE&feature=youtu.be

MUST WATCH AND LISTEN TO VIDEO!! Besides the ducking and slumping!

Here Allman gives his movements

But on the second shot, I glanced up, my gaze stopped one floor below on the depository building, I saw the three guys looking out of the window, looking up. And I went back to the scene on the street and it was pretty obvious Kennedy had been hit. And, as the car drove off, a uniformed policeman came over and said, 'Everybody down.' On about the second shot, we all got down and of course popped back up as the car sped off. As the car sped off, that's when the Secret Service man from the back had vaulted over and pushed Jackie back in the seat, she was trying to come up, and that's when the body assumed that grotesque position we saw on the way to Parkland. Then I ran across the street, spoke to the Newmans and said, 'Stop!' And why we were running that direction, I couldn't tell you. It was just sort of a flow. I stopped and said, 'Are you ok?' He said, 'Yeah, but they got the president. They blew the side of his head in.' I remember thinking, 'I've got to get to a telephone.' But we continued up the little hill there -- I won't say 'knoll' -- the little hill...

Bill: That's all right.

Pierce Allman: And Bob Jackson from the Times-Herald was running behind me. And why we went up there, I don't know, except there was just sort of a movement up there. And then I turned around, ran back down the hill, ran up the sidewalk, went into the depository building, asked the guy where the phone was, went inside, got on the phone, called the station, and had trouble getting through. By the time I got through, said here's what happened, I was more concerned about the implications of what to say. I was fairly sure that...first of all, he was hit. You can't go on air and say the president's been killed. You don't know that. So you can't do that. And I realized you just can't do this. You can't go on the air and say the leader of the free world has just been cut down, you know, in Dallas, during the noonday parade. So I [don't] remember exactly. I heard the tape later, saying that he was hit. Witnesses reported he was hit, slumped forward, you know, and more later. Put the phone down, ran upstairs, then realized, whoop, need the phone, went back down, actually hung up one time, and then realized what I had done, and called back and said, 'Just leave the line open, strap on a tape.' A little later, they did bring, they brought Oswald...they brought the rifle down. A distinct impression: and that was, while I was on the phone, no one ever challenged me. No one ever said, 'Who are you? Who are you calling?' And no one took charge. See, at the time, what you really had was a local homicide. It wasn't against federal law to kill a president. But no one took charge. Lot of uniforms milling around, a lot of plainclothesmen milling around. No one ever said, 'Stop! Hit the wall!,' you know.... Nobody. So it was just this constant milling around. Finally, sometime later, you got back to the station before I did (nodding towards the Newmans) because it was sometime later when a gray-haired guy in a gray suit said [he wanted] to know who I was and what I was doing. And I identified myself and he suggested I wrap it up. I identified him later as Army intelligence. They said that was inaccurate, he might have been CIA or Secret Service, more likely. And when I tried to leave the building I couldn't because it was cordoned off. So I had to stay inside for a while. And when I went outside, [I saw] clusters of people around transistor radios, and I realized what was happening.... I was really concerned, he was not pronounced dead until after.... In fact I didn't know he had been pronounced dead until I got back to the station, walked into the door,

Also trapped inside was Kent Biffle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqXOWMU4_3E

We know some employees like Givens were not allowed back in to be counted. Truly knew this from his answers to WC counsel about Givens.

How would such an roll call help locate an employee whom was just located by Truly, ie Oswald. So how can he be missing, eg Givens.

How about Danny Arce, he did not 'return' to the TSBD, he was taken in the car with others to city hall. Was he included in the list?

Didn't both Givens and Arce miss the 'Roll Call'?

When did Truly know Danny was outside and then taken in by DPD? Can't be as quick as he called for Lee's address!!

What does a roll call do for the DPD? Was it the DPD asking for this or was this a impromptu idea of Trulys?

Was a general TSBD building employee list made and also a warehouse list?

How was the other list generated? Were APB's sent out for missing publishers? Secretaries and temps arrested? Was Jack Cason hauled in?

Only warehouse workers are implicated somehow, yet like a union shop they decided the new guys, the temps take the axe for the rest with seniority? Shit really does flow down hill in this situation.

A list of all those in the building I can see as useful to the authorities. It is evidentiary.

A list of all those whom work in or have access whould be equal in evidentiary value.

Having a roll call usually folks know ahead of time that you are wanting to be counted.

Documenting a gathering, not so useful.

Gathering then documenting, very useful!

So...Was the roll call real?

Lets see what Roy Truly has to say.

Mr. Ball. Now, what did you tell Chief Lumpkin when you came down from the roof of the building?

Mr. Truly. When I noticed this boy was missing, I told Chief Lumpkin that "We have a man here that's missing." I said, "It my not mean anything, but he isn't here." I first called down to the other warehouse and had Mr. Akin pull the application of the boy so I could get--quickly get his address in Irving and his general description, so I could be more accurate than I would be.

Mr. Ball. Was he the only man missing?

Mr. Truly. The only one I noticed at that time. Now, I think there was one or two more, possibly Charles Givens, but I had seen him out in front walking up the street just before the firing of the gun.

Mr. Ball. Did you make a check of your employees afterwards?

Mr. Truly. No, no; not complete. No, I just saw the group of the employees over there on the floor and I noticed this boy wasn't with them.

Not exactly a roll call, just a group waiting around to see if work was to continue. Nothing about a check list or reading off names. He had just seen Lee less than 5 minutes ago in the lunch room. Did he or anyone check the luchroom? And why was Givens given a pass as Roy said he saw him on the street before the gun shots. But he saw Lee in a Lunchroom moments after the shots.

Mr. GIVENS. So I stood there for a while, and I went over to try to get to the building after they found out the shots came from there, and when I went over to try to get back in the officer at the door wouldn't let me in.

Mr. Belin. Did you tell him you worked there?

Mr. Givens. Yes; but he still wouldn't let me in. He told me he wouldn't let no one in.

I think they did let people back in but as the films show it was spotty, and seems Billy Lovelady was out front for quite sometime, hence his addition to the roll call in pen at the bottom?

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?mode=searchResult&absPageId=171624

Lets continue with Roy's recollections.

Mr. Truly. When I got back to the first floor, at first I didn't see anything except officers running around, reporters in the place. There was a regular madhouse.

Mr. Belin. Had they sealed off the building yet, do you know?

Mr. Truly. I am sure they had.

Mr. Belin. Then what?

Mr. Truly. Then in a few minutes--it could have been moments or minutes at a time like that--I noticed some of my boys were over in the west corner of the shipping department, and there were several officers over there taking their names and addresses, and so forth.

Is Truly confusing several officers taking down names and addresses by the front steps/entrance? Or actually the Front West corner of the shipping floor?

Mr. Ball. Did you make a check of your employees afterwards?

Mr. Truly. No, no; not complete. No, I just saw the group of the employees over there on the floor and I noticed this boy wasn't with them.

Whom else was missed?

Mr. TRULY. No. When I came down from the second floor---from the seventh floor with the officer, I thought I saw Jack Dougherty on the fifth floor, which he would have had plenty of time to move the elevator down and up and get some stock and come back.

Mr. TRULY. Yes. When coming down I am sure I saw Jack Dougherty getting some books off the fifth floor. Now, this is so dim in my mind that I could be making a mistake.

So the dim recollection that he had seen Jack far outweighs in his mind that Lee was missing and suspicious.

Jack winds up as a late addition to the list, his name in pen added with Jarman, Lovelady and Truly at the bottom of the roll call list sheet.

Jack was on a much higher floor than Lee.

Jack was not eating his lunch at lunch time. Lee was in a lunch room.

Jack was vaguely remembered by Roy, yet Lee was vividly recalled being stopped by an officer at gun point in the lunchroom.

Jack never was at the roll call as Jack was trying to find Roy.

Jack would be on six when the rifle is found and Roy never sees a rifle till it is taken out the front door.

Jack thinks Roy was on fourth floor. But does not find him.

So Jack was not around, dim memory of Roy seeing him, seeing him on an upper floor....yet Lee Oswald is stuck in Truly's head... Oy Vey!!

Mr. Truly. Then we continued on down, and we saw officers on the fourth floor. I don't recall that we stopped any more until we reached the first floor. But I do recall there was an officer on the fourth floor, by the time we got down that far.

Mr. Belin. All right. And then you got down eventually to the first floor?

Mr. Truly. That is right.

Mr. Belin. About how long after these shots do you think it took you to go all the way up and look around the roof and come all the way down again?

Mr. Truly. Oh, we might have been gone between 5 and 10 minutes. It is hard to say.

Mr. Belin. What did you do when you got back to the first floor, or what did you see?

Mr. Truly. When I got back to the first floor, at first I didn't see anything except officers running around, reporters in the place. There was a regular madhouse.

Mr. Belin. Had they sealed off the building yet, do you know?

Mr. Truly. I am sure they had.

Mr. Belin. Then what?

Mr. Truly. Then in a few minutes--it could have been moments or minutes at a time like that--I noticed some of my boys were over in the west corner of the shipping department, and there were several officers over there taking their names and addresses, and so forth.

Mr. TRULY. No. When I came down from the second floor---from the seventh floor with the officer, I thought I saw Jack Dougherty on the fifth floor, which he would have had plenty of time to move the elevator down and up and get some stock and come back.

Truly will now see the officers taking names in different areas of the building. not just in the West corner. Would take some real compilation of lists to get one name out of 33, or 73.

So with some hesitation Truly asks Otis and then calls for a address and description on the missing boy Lee Oswald. No checking these lists, just a hunch!

Mr. Truly. There were other officers in other parts of the building taking other employees, like office people's names. I noticed that Lee Oswald was not among these boys.

So I picked up the telephone and called Mr. Aiken down at the other warehouse who keeps our application blanks. Back up there.

First I mentioned to Mr. Campbell--I asked Bill Shelley if he had seen him, he looked around and said no.

Mr. BELIN. When you asked Bill Shelley if he had seen whom?

Mr. TRULY. Lee Oswald. I said, "Have you seen him around lately," and he said no.

So Mr. Campbell is standing there, and I said, "I have a boy over here missing. I don't know whether to report it or not." Because I had another one or two out then. I didn't know whether they were all there or not. He said, "What do you think"? And I got to thinking. He said, "Well, we better do it anyway." It was so quick after that.

So I picked the phone up then and called Mr. Aiken, at the warehouse, and got the boy's name and general description and telephone number and address at Irving.

Mr. BELIN. Did you ask for the name and addresses of any other employees who might have been missing?

Mr. TRULY. No, sir.

Mr. BELIN. Why didn't you ask for any other employees?

Mr. TRULY. That is the only one that I could be certain right then was missing.

HOW WAS ROY TRULY SO CERTAIN AND CERTAIN SO QUICKLY THAT LEE WAS NOT IN THE BUILDING UNLESS HE SAW HIM LEAVE OR KNEW FROM ANOTHER THAT LEE LEFT, AND WAS NOT SOMEWHERE IN A SEVEN STORY BUILDING?

AMAZING, BEFORE THE RIFLE OR ANY EVIDENCE IS FOUND ROY KNOWS WHOM TO FINGER!!