REOPEN KENNEDY CASE

After perusing the threads of most of the JFK forums over the past year I am amazed by the lack of standing Prayer Man is receiving. The Ed Forum - even under its "new" management - refuses to pin that thread even though it has well over 200,000 views to date.

What is wrong with these people?

Most often I hear that the reason Prayer Man cannot be Oswald is that the marvelous designers of that exquisitely planned conspiracy would not have overlooked something so major as allowing the designated patsy to be out in public view at the time the shots were fired.

Ahem.

Just what "exquisitely planned conspiracy" are these fellows talking about?

The one that included such conflicting testimonies of the witnesses in Dealey Plaza that they had to either suborn or ignore the testimony?

The one that included such confusion over the weapon found in the TSBD and then, when a weapon is decided upon, it seems to have been incabable of delivering the shots as quickly - and efficiently - as required by that same conspiracy?

Or is it the immaculate conspiracy that included seventeen different stories of what happened in the killing of Tippit?

Or the one that is confused about a bus trip, a taxi trip, a Rambler station wagon, or even the residence of the patsy?

Or the conspiracy that includes having to keep returning to Paine's garage for more "evidence" and, even then, not being able to get the famous BYP camera into evidence until the brother of the assassin sends it in several months later?

You see, I don't see ANY evidence of any exquisitely planned conspiracy.

I see an evidential clusterfuck with three or four agencies tripping over each other in trying to plug the holes in the plotline. And each of them tripping over each other in the process. If that is what these "conspiracy theorists" call a well-planned operation then all of them need to go back to JFK 101 because they can't tell their asses from a cheese danish.

The "designated patsy" was OBVIOUSLY not pre-planned or pre-designated as the patsy by the conspirators otherwise all this running around like heads with their chickens chopped off would never have happened. All the evidence would have already been in the Paine's garage. That's called "planning". There is NO evidence of this having taken place. All the Drago blocks in the freakin' physical universe cannot build a "planned conspiracy" where none exists.

That's what planning does: tries to cover ALL the bases before the event. The fact that none of these things were in place at the time of the search for the assassin can only mean that Oswald was appointed the patsy AFTER the fact. Which means, of course, that he could not have been involved in the conspiracy itself.

This isn't rocket science, people. This is really, really simple.

This much seems obvious.

At least to me.

The researchers that seem most intelligent to me are those who can take the solidified case and simply ignore what we have been told "happened".

Second-floor encounter? Long time the single strand CT's could cling to that "proved" Oswald was innocent even though the WC used it to convict him. Some researchers have suggested the event never occurred but others still cling to it with near-religious fervor.

The bus trip and cab ride? Ignore it. It is fiction.

Oswald living at Beckly? Another fiction.

Practically everything being debated at all the other forums about the case are the fictions put in place by those covering up the crime.

Ignore it.

Focus.

Tout a Fait

Terry, exquisitely put as always. 

Thats the beauty of this forum, Terry. Nothing is sacred or gets a free pass. And the filth helps ofcourse.

I'll pile on with the rest here Terry and say well spoken.

And to Steely's point, Sacred Cows either leave here or wind up on barbie:

Second-floor encounter? Long time the single strand CT's could cling to that "proved" Oswald was innocent even though the WC used it to convict him. Some researchers have suggested the event never occurred but others still cling to it with near-religious fervor.

The bus trip and cab ride? Ignore it. It is fiction.

Oswald living at Beckly? Another fiction.

Practically everything being debated at all the other forums about the case are the fictions put in place by those covering up the crime.

Ignore it.

Focus.

Well said, Terry. To that list I would add the fiction that Oswald had possession of the revolver (most likely) used to kill Tippit. I think the only gun Oswald ever had in his hand inside the Theater was Nick McDonald's; which he grabbed because he thought McDonald was going to shoot him with it. I am willing to bet both of my testicles on this being the case.

Hasan,

I do believe your testicles will be safe.

That's is a SURE BET.

Hasan Yusuf at January 13, 2015 at 8:34 AM

Second-floor encounter? Long time the single strand CT's could cling to that "proved" Oswald was innocent even though the WC used it to convict him. Some researchers have suggested the event never occurred but others still cling to it with near-religious fervor.

 

The bus trip and cab ride? Ignore it. It is fiction.

 

Oswald living at Beckly? Another fiction.

 

Practically everything being debated at all the other forums about the case are the fictions put in place by those covering up the crime.

 

Ignore it.

 

Focus.

Well said, Terry. To that list I would add the fiction that Oswald had possession of the revolver (most likely) used to kill Tippit. I think the only gun Oswald ever had in his hand inside the Theater was Nick McDonald's; which he grabbed because he thought McDonald was going to shoot him with it. I am willing to bet both of my testicles on this being the case.

All the above, and i am looking forward to Lee returning to Mr Tolliver.

Terry Martin at January 13, 2015 at 10:12 AM

Hasan,

 

I do believe your testicles will be safe.

 

That's is a SURE BET.

Reminds me of an uncle who trained greyhounds. He called one Golf Tee. I made the mistake of asking why.

"Because" he said, "you can put your balls on it."

Hasan Yusuf at January 13, 2015 at 8:34 AM

Second-floor encounter? Long time the single strand CT's could cling to that "proved" Oswald was innocent even though the WC used it to convict him. Some researchers have suggested the event never occurred but others still cling to it with near-religious fervor.

 

The bus trip and cab ride? Ignore it. It is fiction.

 

Oswald living at Beckly? Another fiction.

 

Practically everything being debated at all the other forums about the case are the fictions put in place by those covering up the crime.

 

Ignore it.

 

Focus.

Well said, Terry. To that list I would add the fiction that Oswald had possession of the revolver (most likely) used to kill Tippit. I think the only gun Oswald ever had in his hand inside the Theater was Nick McDonald's; which he grabbed because he thought McDonald was going to shoot him with it. I am willing to bet both of my testicles on this being the case.

Hasan,

I believe you can add Frazier's Ride to work on 22/11/63 to that list too.

Yes, Mick, thanks to you we can add that little fiction to the list as well.

It is beginning to look like a completely different case.

Hasan,

I believe you can add Frazier's Ride to work on 22/11/63 to that list too.

I have yet to read through that entire thread, including Ed's entire thread on the Dallas Transit Transfers. I started a new job last week, and have been coming home very tired and in a shitty mood, so I just haven't been able to read through it all. I will be making some time this weekend to do just that. 

Hasan Yusuf at February 5, 2015 at 8:39 AM

Hasan,

I believe you can add Frazier's Ride to work on 22/11/63 to that list too.

I have yet to read through that entire thread, including Ed's entire thread on the Dallas Transit Transfers. I started a new job last week, and have been coming home very tired and in a shitty mood, so I just haven't been able to read through it all. I will be making some time this weekend to do just that. 

Hasan,

Sorry to hear about the strain the new job is creating.

Hopefully you will bounce back, get it under control, and get back to the foul-mouth feisty character we love so well.

Have a couple of Zen brews and let the stress dissolve.

Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

I think there may have been an attempt to create the illusion that Castro did it with the work that had been done linking Oswald to Cuba, it didn't matter how many people did the killing at that point and it didn't matter where Oswald was at the time so long as he was deemed part of it.

It very quickly became lone nut case because someone else didn't want world war III and everything was seen through those glasses after that.

Anyway, prayerman is Oswald it seems to me.

Hasan Yusuf at February 5, 2015 at 8:39 AM

Hasan,

I believe you can add Frazier's Ride to work on 22/11/63 to that list too.

I have yet to read through that entire thread, including Ed's entire thread on the Dallas Transit Transfers. I started a new job last week, and have been coming home very tired and in a shitty mood, so I just haven't been able to read through it all. I will be making some time this weekend to do just that. 

I was already thinking you'd gone soft this past week or so 

I was already thinking you'd gone soft this past week or so

Who, me? Fuck that!

If we think PM is worthy of pursuit ( and I certainly do) perhaps this is something that can be a Project for the group.

The company Image Trends Inc was involved in enhancing the Tina Towner film for "the Lost Bullet". They claim to have enhanced frames from that movie and the ability to look into the shadows.

Some shadows might be worth looking into.

Here re is a link to their article.......

http://www.imagetrendsinc.com/news/article_KXAN_112311_Witness%20to%20JFK%20death%20remembers_Dustin%20Blanchard.pdf

what do you think? This is an opportunity to advance the case.

A great idea

... but too late.

http://www.imagetrendsinc.com/

Well, who owns the Towner movie? Tina? This material has potential to provide the answer. The movie is in colour and could at least provide a clue about PM's clothing.

According to Tina Towner:

"Due to risk of copyright infringement, none of the photographs taken by my father or me on November 22, 1963, will be posted.

"Effective February 2015, The Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza obtained the copyrights to the Towner film and photos. Please contact the museum regarding use of the images."

http://www.tinatowner.net/photographs

I guess that means Gary Mack is the gatekeeper for any of the Towner images.

Wonderful.