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I see Tuberculosis-Boy, the one and only Stephen Roy, is doing his best over at the Education Forum to close down discussion regarding the Paris attacks. Apparently, the **cough** **cough** man believes we should just swallow whole the news reports of recent events and he claims he has less patience now with people who question what they are told is reality by the mainstream media. Pat Speer has also chimed in saying he finds nothing suspicious at all concerning proceedings over in France. Until, that is, Ron Ecker questioned whether it is believable that terrorists who took pains to hide their identity during the attacks with ski masks would leave ID in the car that they ditched. Speer agreed that this was a question he was interested in finding out more about thereby completely contradicting his belief that there was nothing at all suspicious about these event that he made only three hours before. I know that TB-boy isn't a member here but if I could be so bold as to question a particular part of this strange story without upsetting his Ostrich mentality because there is something I find very suspicious after watching Rupert Murdoch's Sky News this very morning. Speer seems to believe that the documents found could have been left in panic by the two guys weilding Kalishnikov rifles because they intended leaving the country. The same two guys who very calmy and in a military-background manner allegedly shot a police officer before returning to their car, retrieving a training shoe that had fallen out. They then managed to escape from Paris, and its 3 billion cameras, before calling the media to tell them exactly who they were and that they were part of an Islamic extremist group. FFS, if this was part of movie plot you simply would not believe it. Now, Sky News has this morning been reporting that there were four people involved in these attacks. The two lads who allegedly attacked the Charlie Hebdo building, Said Kouachi and Cherif Kouachi. Then there was the bloke who allegedly took the hostages in the supermarket, Amedy Coulibaly. Lastly there was allegedly a woman involved called Hayat Boumeddiene, the non-sactioned wife of Coulibaly. Her whereabouts are currently unknown after, we are led to believe, she managed to escape the Kosher Market siege - the building that was surrounded by a small army of heavily armed police officers. Officials say she may have escaped in all the confusion of the siege. If it looks like bullshit, smells like bullshit, and is covered in flies -- we can rest assured we a looking at a big dollop of bullshit.
Yet, in the a Sky News report they claimed that the "man" pictured below was in the warehouse that Said Kouachi and Cherif Kouachi were caught in and that police also surrounded with thousand of officers. This "man", whose face was hidden by an on screen graphic was supposedly texting the police with information about the suspects and was hiding under a sink in the building.
Interesting that this "man" could also be a woman. A woman whose hair is very similar to that of Hayat Boumeddien and who, we are told, is still at large. What an incredible coincidence that this long-haired geezer just happened to be in the warehouse and helping the police. I may be wrong. This might be a man but I find the whole story just a little hard to swallow right now. Stephen Tuberculosis Roy can continue to feign disgust toward people demonstrating skepticism during events like this that we have been bombarded with for the last 15 years (and more) but as per usual we will begin to see this story morph over the coming weeks and more than likely see strong resistance from the French government in wanting to investigate it. What did Tony Blair say about calls for an investigation after the 7/7 attacks? He said an investigation would be "a ludicrous diversion." Although an inquiry was convened we found out absolutely fuck all worth knowing and were instead presented with the oft-repeated mantra that "terrorists" are attacking our "freedoms"... ...as per usual. | |
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Site Owner Posts: 2049 |
Lee, I have to admit, I was taking fuck all notice of any of this -- cos you know --- I hate re-runs -- but I admit to having my interest piqued when I saw something on social media about the ID issue. This has been my only comment on it: so lemme get this straight. the shooters were masked. they slaughtered just about everyone in their sights. then one left his national id card in a stolen getaway car - he had it out ready presumably in case they got pulled over for a traffic infringement - then they go and take a hostage - without disguises or masks - tell him they don't kill civilians and then after a while, let him go before getting gunned down themselves. Yep. All very neat and tidy. Useful idiots. For both "sides". Your thoughts on it are mind-blowing. The photo does seem to depict a female or someone with femanine traits. The hair - the stance - and what appear to be female hips (though also could be just the shape of the jacket). Given all else you say, it forms a good case it's her. Stay safe. Being correct in these situations may not be exactly a good thing. I'm not surprised about Roy, btw. He makes these calls from behind a facade of being careful not to overstep the evidence. That's fine. But not when you downplay the evidence enough (or ignore the evidence enough, or twist the evidence enough) to make a tippy toe step seem like a giant leap of logic. Doesn't matter. His work on Ferrie is soon to suffer the same fate as Judyth's Ferrie tale. | |
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Roy is MSM all the way, Greg. He's worked for them for a long time. He did exactly the same thing during the Boston bombings. Feigning disgust with perfectly reasonable questions and observations whilst he was personally reporting on it. He, like many others, will link these reasonable questions to the massive leaps of logic taking place all over the internet right now and no doubt Jim Fetzer is creaming his knickers whilst on the phone to Lew Rockwell. I, for my own sanity, categorise some of the arseholes we have deal with into different camps. Roy, IMHO, is a MSM lurker who tries to stifle certain discussions. His interests in forums goes beyond his JFK connection and as we know he likes to use pseudonyms. Once someone has one, I think it a safe bet they have others. I wouldn't trust this man as far I could push my house. And I sure wish he's start taking some vitamins. | |
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Administrator Posts: 921 |
The reports from the MSM is that the survivor who walked out of the printing building after hiding under the sink is a guy called Lilian Lepere. His father has been on TV telling reporters to leave him and his family in peace. I doubt we'll see Lilian any time soon. EDITED: mistake rectifed. Name of sink-man was wrong. It is apparently Lilian and not Leon. | |
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Moderator Posts: 1013 |
An Agence France-Presse report i read this morning after work, described "sinkman" as a 26 year old graphic designer named Lilian. The report also included details of how a father and his 3 year old son hid from Coulibaly when he entered the supermarket, with no mention of him being accompanied by Boumeddienne. Can't find that link now, only Sky news links. It would appear that this tale is in mid shuffle before finally being dealt out. | |
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The Daily Mail is reporting the following:
"How hero hiding in cardboard box guided police by texts as they moved in to take out jihadi brothers at print plant Lilian Lepere, 27, hid in a box during siege with Charlie Hebdo gunmen He was initially trapped inside with father Pascal Lepère who then escaped" No mention from the owner of the printworks, Michel Catalano, of Lilian Lepere's father being with him and escaping during his interview on TV an hour ago. I think you are right Steely. The story is far from ready yet. Although after Sky News did Lilian Lepere a solid by covering his face with a blur blob during their reporting the UK newspapers have been printing pictures of the long-haired printworks employee all day. Which I'm sure he'll be appreciative of - - if he exists. This thing gets stranger by the hour.
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Moderator Posts: 1013 |
Escaped!...WTF..must be a French thing to take Pop to work with you. Stephen Roy and Pat Speer were right ofcourse. ...there's nothing to see here, move along | |
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Moderator Posts: 1013 |
Lee, if Mr Lepere jr exists, he may need to grow his hair in a hurry. I think your right that France's Most Wanted made her TV debut on Sky news. | |
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Member Posts: 333 |
The apparent ID blunder wasn’t the only blunder. There was a series of such blunders by the fugitives after the Charlie Hebdo attack that contrasts starkly with the clinical preparation and execution of the attack itself. Also, there seems to be a glaring contrast between the ruthlessness of the attackers on the one hand and, on the other hand, the lack of ruthlessness of the fugitives towards witnesses and particularly towards the schoolchildren who to a ruthless killer’s mind would surely be considered valuable hostages. The summary execution of the alleged perpetrators may have been necessary in the circumstances but the manner of it suggests that the authorities had little or no interest in capturing them alive, as they should have if for no other reason than to conduct a proper investigation of the atrocities. But Stephen Roy and his ilk say we’re not supposed to notice these things. According to Roy, it’s ‘completely wrong’ to be suspicious about things that are suspicious. According to him, we should stop commenting on these things because it’s ‘truly offensive’ – a phrase that in some ways echoes the mentality of the alleged jihadist perpetrators. I don’t know whether the obviously suspicious aspects of these events are manifestations of a false flag or some other kind of wet work operation as some have speculated. But Roy and his fellow travellers claim to know that they aren’t and thus claim to know more than the rest of us. I find that patronising attitude obnoxious. According to these pontificators, we should be happy to sup on the MSM Soma and forget about thinking for ourselves. I see that Larry Hancock has posted a link to an article that’s devoted entirely to the mentality of the jihadists. There is no mention in the article of the political conditions that have produced the jihadists – the chaos produced by constant interventions of western powers and primarily the US that have sabotaged the development of secular democratic movements in the Middle East. ‘The politics of the last atrocity’ may suit the agenda of jihadists but it also suits the divide and conquer agenda of those ultimately responsible for the jihadist mentality.
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Moderator Posts: 1013 |
The shuffle so far goes like this........armed couple storm supermarket......male killed, female escapes....then we have female hiding somewhere in Paris....now for a cut and shuffle...female passed through Turkey last week on her way to Sryia, but still remains the French public enemy No1. This hand is a long way from being dealt. | |
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Site Owner Posts: 2049 |
The cardboard box has now become the cupboard under the sink in a lunchroom. I have done a google search on the guy - his footprint is almost non-existent. No FB or twitter accounts - tho it's possible they have been taken down to stop people annoying him. More problematic is that using the date range 1/1/2000 to 1/1/2015 I got only 2 two possible pre-terror references to him - one on some kind of social page in French and one mention as a spectator at a rugby game. And it's possible neither are him. There is an African female who shares his name... | |
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Now we are told that Boumeddiene was not at the grocery store with her "husband" and instead she is in Syria having left France at the beginning of January. So, along with Lilian Lepere, I doubt we'll be seeing her again. | |
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Site Owner Posts: 2049 |
Just a reminder of what French Intelligence services are capable of... | |
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Moderator Posts: 1143 |
The Rainbow Warrior case is interesting. Some might think it a typical Frog blunder but I can see it as nothing more than the intelligence operations (oxymoron, of course) typical of the era. Since then, and someone's genius creation of "Islamic terrorists", it has become easier to deflect all such attacks to the vague and ominous "terrorists". It still doesn't wash. Since 9/11, I have not kept up with these false flags, there's just too damn many of them. It is almost as if the major intelligence services have been given carte blanche to do as many of the damned things they want. Until heir aggenda is achieved, the attacks will continue. Smoke and mirrors. | |
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I'd like to add in a discrepancey I saw here as well. It's like a two birds one stone deal. | |
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Frankie said: "Convinient that they happened to stop all survaliance on the Kouachis mere months before the attack, one of which had been imprisoned for terrorist related offences." The same thing happened in the Boston Marathon bombing. What a crock! | |
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Site Owner Posts: 2049 |
and in the case of the recent Martin Place seige in Sydney... | |
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You know we live in a fucked up world when the death of a bunch of cartoonists registers higher than all the atrocities that have been committed in the last 10 years combined by these brothers in arms: | |
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Lee Rigby's killers can be added also, one of whom MI5 attempted to recruit well in advance of the attack. | |
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You know we live in a fucked up world when the death of a bunch of cartoonists registers higher than all the atrocities that have been committed in the last 10 years combined by these brothers in arms You can say that again, Paul. | |
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