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Stuart Reed

From ROKC with Love.

Very contrasty images by Stuart Reed. We got these from SouthEastern UNI. I have no idea how many generations deep this is. We were quite disappointed ourselves.

The quality is rubbish really, a privilege Ed Ledoux paid 90 bucks for.

Richard Bernabei

Richard Bernarbei (1933-1979) was a college professor at Queens University in Kingston, Ontario, Canada.

Richard Bernabei (1951). Thanks to Mati Bernabei.

About a year and a half ago I was wondering whether anyone else had noticed Prayer Man in the Wiegman and/or Darnell films before Sean Murphy started his quest less than ten years ago. I was already loosely checking out where this all originated from but I could not find anything from before the millennium until I came across Bernabei’s name  while trawling through Harold Weisberg’s archive. I read his correspondence from the late 60’s, between them and Richard Sprague and almost fell off my chair and made mention of this after I regained my composure  at ROKC. There is quite a bit of correspondence in this archive.

And by chance I came across his discovery of another person on those steps besides doorway man (a.k.a. Billy Lovelady). I shall post some of these pages of his correspondence below. These pages are the first signs of discovery of Prayer Man, although he was not named as such, that credit belongs to Sean Murphy.

Knowing that Richard Bernabei’s material was held at his workplace in Kingston  I emailed Queens University in June last year and was told that the archives were not indexed nor digitised, so a dead end for me unless I or one of my fellow ROKCers made their way over there.

I left the whole thing for what it was, as I had plenty to go on until I emailed roughly 6 months ago to see if I could get a local person to investigate for me instead. Little did I know that an individual by the name of Sean Adessky had gone through all of Bernabei’s  archive a few months before and had made an index. From that index one section jumped out to me.

Folder, “Man in the TSBD Doorway” 

–      Documents relating to the individuals seen in the doorway of the TSBD at the time of the shooting.

–      Photographs, commission documents, sketches, few pages of handwritten notes.

Totalling 35 pages I was dying to get hold of all of this material, which they promptly helped me with. The whole document is more focused on Doorway Man (Billy Lovelady) but by researching it from every possible angle he also deals with Prayer Man for  about 4-5 pages. These pages are very valuable since they contain sketches made by Richard Bernabei and  diagrams as well of the people on the front steps of the Texas School Book Depository. This material is the first hard evidence of someone actually recognising a person in that shadowy area of those front steps of the Texas School Book Depository when JFK was assassinated and also actively documenting it. How he did this is a bit of an enigma, since the material of Wiegman he had in his collection there is not much to see there. Check for yourselves in the picture gallery below.

Bear in mind that at that time no one had gotten hold of the Jimmy Darnell film where Prayer Man is seen a lot clearer than in the Dave Wiegman film. The other sources, regarding this particular segment of the case, Bernabei had were Altgens 6 and the Hughes film.

Great stuff indeed, not just from a find p.o.v. but also what else he wrote inside that document. He followed the same ‘tactic’ Sean Murphy and Richard Hocking used. Not only did he study the film and photo material but he also looked at all the available testimonies and brought Oswald’s interrogations and whereabouts and TSBD employees Carolyn Arnold and Victoria Adams into the fold. Furthermore I plaster some scans of the images he had during his research. Two copies of Altgens 6, Willis 4, 8 & 10, Wiegman, Towner and Bell.

The letter below is from Richard E. Sprague who writes in good detail about Wiegman and his film to Richard Bernarbei.

  • Sprague managed to buy a copy of the film on 35 mm, where this film is, is not known at this time. He also mentions that he has clipped some of the frames out of his film, therefor the possibility exists that the film was kept in a cut up state.
  • He explains the many generations of the film.
  • Wiegman had not seen his film at the time of their telephone interview.

The large format negatives Sprague is talking about are at the National Archives in Washington, we at ROKC managed to get copies of these.

And then the trail went dead, for almost 40 years………………..why?

 

Addendum Dec 30th 2016:

Mati Bernabei (Richard’s daughter) contacted me through Facebook and shared the following info with me, which she has allowed me to share:

She was 14 years old when he died in 1979. He was very unwell the last two years due to alcohol related deterioration of body and mind.

” I knew that he was deeply interested in JFK, I didn’t understand what he was working on. I was too young. Close to the time of his death (when he, and everyone, understood that his death was imminent), my mother and other friends of his convinced him to donate his JFK files to the Archives at Queen’s University. They didn’t want the work to be lost”

“. I’ve always imagined that his work would remain in dusty boxes in the Archives forever, so I am truly delighted that you found it useful . My father was an artist, heart and soul (before academia, he studied art), hence his drawings, and his understanding of visual perspective, light and shadow, etc. I’m sure he would be deeply gratified that his work is still of interest in some way. Very interesting for me to read your analysis too! Thank you!”

“When looking for the photo I reread a short bio of my father that my mom wrote in the 1990s when she doing a hobby genealogy project (for my sister and I). That mentions the donation to the archives, and I remembered more details. My father was a true mess in the last two years of his life. He had a heart murmur due to childhood rheumatic fever, thus the collapse of his body due to chain smoking and alcohol was accelerated. In June of 1979 my uncle (his brother) came to visit — by that time it was clear that there was no turning back – organ failure was occurring, and father would die soon (he died 2 months later). At that time my uncle and my mom convinced Pa to donate the JFK material. My father had already destroyed much of his artwork, in a fit of self loathing, I think. So, my mom and uncle rightly worried that he might do the same with his JFK documents.”

“My father’s struggles were obvious to people who knew him in the last few years, thus there was no need or purpose in in trying to create a facade. And, he talked and wrote about too. He was a kind, loving, tragically self-destructive person in those last years.”

*****

 

Special thanks to Heather Home and Susan Office at Queens University.

Mati Bernabei for the portrait and the additional info.

And many thanks as well to Francesca Brzezicki for making the Bernabei correspondence and photo scans for me.

Wiegman scans by ROKC from the Richard E. Sprague archive at the National Archives in Wa.

Roy Truly interview 1964

This Roy Truly interview was done by Will Lang for Dolores Kraich and sent to Holland McCombs, who was bureau chief for TIME and LIFE magazine in Rio de Janeiro, Buenos Aires, Mexico City, and Dallas.

It deals with Truly’s recollections of Oswald’s job application, the day of the assassination, the second floor lunch room encounter, but also delves into the whole Doorway man matter.

Any nuggets?

A few:

  • Truly, on page 2 describes Oswald as an ‘undetected paranoiac’
  • Page 3,  he states that Oswald could not have known about the motorcade passing by the TSBD until 72 hrs beforehand. And starts to speculate about and eventually condemns Oswald heavily “But as I suppose we all now realize, he had to shoot somebody or do something big. He probably would have shot anybody who was big enough if he had the chance or could make the chance”.
  • Page 4 digs into the doorway-man Lovelady vs Oswald saga.
  • Page 5, he discusses the day JFK got shot. He mentions Lovelady and being outside on the steps, and himself standing in front of those steps near the curb of Elm.  What is downright rubbish is his description of a wave of people making their way back and that Baker had to push his way though the crowd. The Couch and Darnell films show that Baker had a clear run towards the TSBD building.
  • On page 8 he contradicts himself regarding this wave of people. “there were not so many people out there in front of this building when the President’s car passed here”
  • Page 9 shows that the author(s) forwarded a copy to Hugh Aynesworth in 1967.

 

Overall a well rehearsed interview, a puff piece by the looks of it, but Truly makes the same mistake again like he did with his statements, testimony and newspaper reports, he always adds info that makes one question his claims.

 

 

Mary Ferrel JFK Lancer 2016 New Frontier Award

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Prayer Man on Dutch TV and Radio-1

Monday the 14th I joined Monique Sleiderink  of TV Oost (that’s the local Dutch TV channel for the East of the country) for an interview about Prayer Man. I had a great time, simple as that. Hope to join them again when the book is out. There is a nice page made up on RTV Oost’s website. In Chrome right click and choose translate. Here are some pictures taken during the TV show, one with Monique outside in the corridor and some screenshots of the video itself.

And on the 22nd I did an interview for KRO/NCRV’s Groot Op 5.  They had picked up on my TV oost appearance and wanted to do an interview the next day, but I was travelling back then, so we postponed until the 22nd. Again a short interview about 4 minutes which was great to do.

Both interviews have taught me a bit about trying to get the message across in a short amount of time, as if I were to put the evidence forward I would need at least 4 hours :-)

I have been given both recordings and I shall supply the videos with subtitles and upload to YouTube in due time.

The steps of the TSBD

Thanks to Brian Kelshaw  for the pix and Scott Reid, his willing assistant.

 

November updates

Hi all,

first this site and a few others got hacked and had a spam bot installed that sent millions of spam mails. Google blacklisted the site, but has all been rectified and given a clean state of health and is a lot more secure now.

Then there was the one day seminar in London, we had 15 souls downstairs at The Greene Man pub near Great Portland St. Dealey Plaza UK held a one day seminar where I did a talk about the 2nd floor encounter and also talked about Oswald’s interrogations, which is my next essay. I hope to have it finished before year’s end. Don’t hold me to it tho ;).

We followed with a screening of A Coup In Camelot. We managed to watch it on a 65″ 4K screen. Everyone enjoyed watching the documentary a lot. I myself enjoyed the Barry Ernest and Vince Palamara sections, even though I am well familiar with their work, it was good to see their research presented in this excellent documentary.

 

Barry Ernest in A Coup In Camelot. Click to enlarge.

Barry Keane did a fitting tribute to J.F.K. at the very end, like he always does every year. After which half of us went back into the pub since it had been such an enjoyable event. Talks about Canterbury have already started and we will try and get a killer line-up for this event. 2.5 days of constant yapping about all types of aspects of the JFK Assassination, what’s not to love :)

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Out of the blue Stu Wexler told me that I was being presented with an award at the Mary Ferrell awards at the JFK Lancer conference in Dallas last weekend.

I have been given the Mary Ferrell New Frontier Award 2016 at the JFK Lancer Conference for my Anatomy essay. The Award is for new research in respect to my work on further exploring the official story of the Oswald encounter.  The Pioneer awards are intended to recognise and honour new research in a variety of fields. This year Bill Simpich, Malcolm Blunt and a few others received the awards along with me.

At first my reply to Stu was “yeah right”, but I was quickly convinced otherwise.

I am humbled by this Award and have to thank the JFK Lancer team, for the great honour of this accolade and since it is only the first piece of four, it is a major stimulant to continue.

Thank you!

The article is due a substantial update so watch this space.

 

The Death Of Prayer Woman part-2

So the lads have been back at it again, this time using the Wiegman film. After being obliterated by my previous post Duncan MacRae, Carig Lamson and Brian Doyle aka as Ralph Yates on Amazon and Albert Doyle (the dead father’s account) thought they’d give their verbal excrement technique another go.

Let’s compare pix shall we? In this case size does matter!

The Chris Davidson GIF, from Dave Wiegman stills. Source: Death In Dealey Plaza. Resolution of this DVD 768 x 576 px.  Let’s take a look at a sample of this in a 1920 x 1080 px window. I am doing this for comparison reasons. This is not the exact same frame. This is a screen grab I managed to get myself from the DVD in question.

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The real source for this version of the Wiegman film is a theatrical newsreel version from 1964 from UCLA, the makers of the Death In Dealey Plaza would probably have a 5th generation copy to make their dupes from so that makes this a 6th or even a 7th generation, since their tapes were transferred to DVD and the screen shots used for the GIF are then  8th generation repros.
1st gen: Wiegman original
2nd gen enlargement to 35mm
3rd gen postive film sold on to other companies such as Hearst and UCLA
4th gen negative made from positive
5th gen makers of DIDP get a copy.
6th transfer to tape then the question is does it go from tape to DVD or from the dupe they got from UCLA. My guess is the former rather than the latter since there is not a huge difference in resolution and this happened more than ten years ago (the dvd rel. that is)
So the DVD would be the 7th gen.
The CD Gif the 8th
The Prayer Woman image the 9th!

Now we take the CD Gif and place it in the same window, yes that is how big the original is. Chris rotated the pic to make it line up with the other shot. It has had some post production as the contrast has been increased and the photo appears to be lighter. But size-wise it is pretty much the same as my copy.

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Now I post MacRae’s PW image next to the same GIF. And also inserted a 400 DPI version of the same CD GIF next to it.

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So an 8th generations deep reproduction of an image, in its size as shown in the photograph above is being drastically cropped, “enhanced” and manipulated and becomes the actual 9th generation copy.

From this so called enhancement we can conclude the following:

  1. It’s size has been increased significantly even tho the resolution of the enlargement has been set back at 72 dpi.
  2. Increase of contrast and darkened overall
  3. The top of Prayer Man’s head has been cropped off.
  4. The appearance of wheel barrow man, if Prayer Man is Prayer Woman then surely MacRae, Lamson and Doyle can explain the sudden appearance of wheel barrow man. Not that anyone will believe this to be someone, but this points at things are being ‘made to appear’ inside that picture due to its excessive enlargement and post-production.
Wheel barrow man!. Click pic. to enlarge.

Wheel barrow man!. Click pic. to enlarge.

 

Now I place the Sprague neg. (No. 3) in there, the negs that we scanned in with a flatbed scanner have a much higher resolution than anything else publicly available and shown by any photographic researcher. This is not the exact frame as the one inside the CD GIF (No. 1) but it is very close. And the MacRae interpretation at No. 2.

The generations for this particular shot would be:

1st gen: Wiegman original.
2nd gen enlargement to 35mm.
3rd gen postive film sold on to other companies such as Hearst and UCLA.
4th gen negative made from positive.
5th gen is the positive made from that negative sold to Sprague.
6th gen are the Sprague negs.
7th gen the scans of which you see the one on the right (No. 3). They are also reproductions from large format negatives.
Source: letter from Richard E. Sprague.

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In all honesty the area that has been enlarged and manipulated by them is even smaller than shown with the No. 1 pic since they cropped the top of his head off.

I have left this image untouched besides drawing a marquee and applying auto levels to bring Prayer Man out a little more out of the darkness. The dust, even the hairs and scratches are visible on it and even that is enough to kill off the glasses, the bag, the teacup (nice touch Dunc’ but that’s stretching things a little too far….) and all the other make believe hooey advocated by Doyle and MacRae. But here it is at its best. Mind you that these are flatbed scans and we are in the process of getting these negs properly scanned in. And I for one cannot wait to show them!

MacRae and Lamson provide absolutely no evidence of how these images have come about, they are not able to reproduce any of it on any other Wiegman frame and they shroud their work in secrecy instead. Doyle just whimpers on like an unruly child, but it’s his crazy deluded headset that is most worrying, his Fetzerian remarks which are interlaced with Cinque style delusions are to be monitored closely.

 

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Skillful photo experts, something Doyle keeps coming up with as support for his delusions, would not go along with his plan at all in the first place. They’d say GTFO and get me the best copy available, instead of messing about with 5th-9th generations down. So how about it Doyle? While you were taking a selfie in front of the TSBD did you bother to go inside and ask for the first generation copy of the Darnell film? Of course you did not……….

They can only debate fuzzy pictures, since they cannot refute the other mountain of evidence that places Oswald on the first floor and outside on the landing while JFK was blasted away.

Finally make up your own mind about this, but I know who my money is on and he ain’t a she.

By Stan Dane.

By Stan Dane.

Mixed batch Jim Murray

Some Parkland, Dallas streets, Dealey Plaza and The Trade Mart (of which there are more to come).

All pix by Jim Murray-Black Star. ROKC Scans from the Richard E. Sprague Archive at the National Archives.

 

 

Bill Shelley and Billy Lovelady in the Couch film

In a small section of the Couch film researcher Gerda Duncke found Lovelady and Shelley in the Couch film, which also partially captured Baker’s dash towards the TSBD.

Gerda Dunckel pointed them (Shelley and Lovelady) out in 2012.

Here are videos of her Gifs

 

There have been some doubts about the identity of them but I was sold on it back then and even more now.

This ROKC scan of a Couch print from the archives (Richard E. Sprague collection) at first sight did not offer much detail overall, but all the more with regards the two persons who we thought were Bill Shelley and Billy Lovelady.

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Well this shot and especially its close-ups seals it.And is also conform their initial statements. And this visual clincher shows that they both lied about their presence on the steps during their WC testimony.

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Jim Murray at Parkland and DPD 3rd floor

Jim Murray at Parkland and DPD 3rd floor

Jim Murray photos inside the DPD 3rd floor, near Captain Fritz’s office. Also two shots of Parkland at night.

Scanned by ROKC from the Richard E. Sprague Collection at the Archives.

The Washington Post

I managed to buy a set of front sections of the Washington Post Nov 23rd up to and including Nov 29th.

Then had these sent to Terry Martin who scanned the pages in for me by making  scans of each quarter page, and from whereon I stitched them back together as the scans would allow me to. I think I did an alright job.

I am only showing mostly Oswald related stuff.

All ROKC scans by Terry Martin.

The large pages are fairly big, click on the image to see full size scan.

 

Nov 23rd.

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Love that highlighted bit above!


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Nov 24th

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Nov 25th.


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Nov 26th.

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Nov 27th.

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Nov 28th.

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Nov 29th.

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Debunking the 2nd floor lunchroom encounter with The Lone Gunman Podcast

Episode 124 of the Lone Gunman podcast, yours truly for two hours talking about the 2nd floor lunch room fugezi.

http://www.tlgpodcast.com/shows/ep124-debunking-the-2nd-floor-lunchroom-encounter

During the talk I make a mistake: I attributed exposing Oswald as a subversive to Jack Revill was Hosty and not Bookhout.

Thank you Rob Clark and the 1,425 people who have listened to it these past 48 hours already.

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By: Stan Dane

 

Jim Murray in Dealey Plaza

More shots by Jim Murray of Black Star, scanned by ROKC from the Richard E. Sprague Collection at NARA.

More Jim Murray inside the DPD

Found another batch with some interesting shots taken by Jim Murray. We see Captain George Max Doughty with Oswald’s finger prints, also Buell Wesley Frazier captured from behind while moving through the corridor and we see Jesse Curry of course.  I like the shot with Oswald pleading his innocence to the press core while Elmer Boyd looks into Murray’s lens. I have to say that Murray had a real good sense where to be to get the shots.

I have more, but it looks like I am heading to busy times, so will have to find a slot to do some, whenever that may be. But for now enjoy this set and the previous ones.

 

 

Previous sets

 

Anatomy of the second floor lunch room encounter.

Anatomy of the second floor lunch room encounter.

 

Last updated Sept 9th 2017

This essay got too big for its own good, more than 23,000 words which resulted in the blog software unable to cope and ended up crashing numerous times.

Thanks to Bernard Wilds webmaster of DPUK we now have a PDF of the Anatomy of the second floor lunch room encounter available, at 134 pages a light read ;)

Update Dec 6th 2016: this article has been awarded the Mary Ferrell and JFK Lancer New Frontier Award in late November.

 

Credit: Stan Dane.

Credit: Stan Dane.

Credit: Stan Dane.

LBJ Poster

Here’s something cute…..

I have this from a Canadian researcher’s archive and don’t know anything else about it. Surely there is a record of this quote somewhere.

But to print it as a poster…..

 

Edit: Joseph Backes pointed me to two links regarding this quote.

Click to access 70-03-05.pdf

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=10438

 

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Last batch of the NARA documents till now. Courtesy of ROKC.

HSCA report Robert Morrow.

HSCA interview Robert J Jamison.

 

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HSCA Documents Buddy Walthers.

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William James Lowery HSCA testimony.

 

William James Lowery is not known to many, but Joe Molina changed all that when he insisted on giving his testimony to the Warren Commission. In his W.C. testimony Molina states:

Mr. MOLINA. I just wanted to state in the record that I want to deny any accusations if there is any doubt in anybody’s mind.
Mr. BALL. No; there is nobody I ever heard has accused you of anything.
Mr. MOLINA. I know there’s a fella that I talk with that belongs to the or had worked with the FBI that knows my position in this thing.
Mr. BALL. I never heard anybody accuse you of any wrongdoing in connection with this matter.
Mr. MOLINA. In fact, Bill Lowery worked with the FBI.
Mr. BALL. You don’t have to worry about that: no one is accusing you of anything.
Mr. MOLINA. Except the local people here.

Lowery was working for the feds and he was infiltrating groups and attending meetings to inform on them to the FBI. I will write a piece on him later this year.

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The testimony below was supposedly ‘Postponed In Full’ but was released many many years ago. Very interesting read.

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Joe Molina’s HSCA interview which was supposedly to be ‘postponed in full’ yet it was already released in 1998.

Some interesting titbits in Molina’s testimony, see for yourself.

 

I am working on redoing the page on Molina, but this will take some time since I have a few articles to do before I can dig into this matter.

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All scans by ROKC.

 

Scott Malone

 

Amos Euins

 

Amos Euins HSCA

 

Pierce Allman.

Allman looked back at the TSBD and saw two Negros up in a window of the TSBD, so he looked that way almost straight after, as Bonnie Ray Williams, Harold Norman and James Jarman made their way to the other side of the building to get a better view of what had happened down Elm. Allman did not see a rifle being withdrawn.

From his observations it is highly uncertain he encountered Oswald, he is not able to describe the man he encountered, yet the man who asks him to keep his call short and then get off the phone, he describes the possible Military Intelligence man  in very good detail.

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Jack Edwin Dougherty’s statements and notes from the HSCA all scans below by ROKC.

Jim Hosty files from the HSCA.

Hosty met with Jack Revill in the garage of the DPD and threw Oswald under a bus at about 3 PM on Nov 22nd. Revill made a report on instruction of Captain Gannaway describing the conversation that made Hosty look bad. Revill testified in front of the WC about the whole event as well. Made Hoover’s club look bad so Hosty got transferred to Kansas and docked on his pay.

 

HSCA interview Wes Wise.

 

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More HSCA documents scanned in at NARA by ROKC.

Buell Frazier

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ROKC has managed to get to NARA and get a few boxes shown with HSCA documents of some of the TSBD employees, and we found a few bits of interest. It was surprising to see that certain folders were kept in the CIA classified section. As of now I have no knowledge whether these are to be released next year.

Bill Shelley had a record for theft. The charges relate to 1960 and 1969. The one from 1960 refers to weapons theft. The other one is unclear and perhaps the Dallas County Records can solve that piece of the puzzle.

So Billy Lovelady had a weapons charge arrest record prior the assassination, and Ochus Campbell helped him out paying off his remainder of the outstanding fine. And now Bill Shelley. Yet Charles Douglas Givens who had a narcotics charge was literally hounded by the DPD. Or did Billy and Bill get ‘the treatment’ as well and is that why they lied during their WC testimony?

Criminal Record Bill Shelley

Criminal Record Bill Shelley, click pic. to enlarge.

 

Danny Garcia Arce in his HSCA statement: “Lee Oswald rode down in the elevator with us…..” which contradicts the whole elevator race story. They may have surely had some of these races, but not at that time.

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Danny Garcia Arce statement HSCA 1978. Click pic. to enlarge.

 

Roy Truly’s and Marrion Baker’s FBI statements from Sept 23rd 1964 were rushed back to Washington, probably to be there to be included with the Warren Report which was printed already and to be handed to LBJ the next day. They wanted to make sure these statements were back in time. The timing of this is nothing short of amazing.

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Cover letter to have the FBI statements by Roy Truly and Marrion Baker being sent back to Washington a.s.a.p. Click pic. to enlarge.

CIA document Lee Oswald’s activities Nov 22-24

Thanks to Malcolm Blunt for handing me this document from the HSCA while at the DPUK Canterbury seminar last April. This CIA document, sadly undated, shows Lee Oswald’s activities from Nov 22nd to the 24th.

The fact that the CIA went through all the witness statements and testimony and put them in chronological order is interesting by itself. There are even two pages with diagrams of who was were.

Interesting indeed.

 

 

Billy Lovelady was not standing on the top of the steps

Lately a few individuals have tried to claim that Prayer Man was very short and they used ‘calculations’ and the ‘fact’ that Lovelady was standing on the landing when Dave Wiegman filmed the front of the TSBD. They  used Lovelady’s height to ‘prove’ that Prayer Man (read: Lee Harvey Oswald) was way shorter and could not possibly be Oswald.

Let’s debunk this shall we?

All types of faulty and/or made-up calculations and lines drawn on a picture were presented as analytical research, none of which was supported by any type of evidence. No one bothered to mention what camera Wiegman was using, nor could any one present an exact location as to where Wiegman was filming from, add on that all this happened while the vehicle he was standing in was moving which makes it even more difficult to ascertain Wiegman’s position.

In short: utter junk science that no one else than the believers Richard Gilbride and Albert Doyle seemed to subscribe to and they ended up trolling a few forums with their science.

While going through the photos of the Wiegman film I came across a neat little find two days ago, something that I was only able to do so as we managed to get a high resolution scan from the NARA archives in the Richard E. Sprague collection.

The find was Bill Shelley (underneath No.3), with Prayer Man being No. 1 and Billy Lovelady No. 2. This pic. is from the second segment Wiegman filmed of the front of the TSBD and it also shows that Lovelady has stepped down (compared to his position in the first segment) and it also shows that Shelley has moved slightly more to the left (he is now behind Otis Williams whereas he is more to the right of him in the first segment, see the 4th photograph below). This is a good indicator that while the shots were fired they already made a move to go down and check out what was going on. The two Gerda Dunckel GIFs show that Shelley and Lovelady had left the steps and made their way to the rail road yard further west of the building within seconds after. I go in great detail about this  HERE.

Shelly was standing on the top of the landing. Whereas Lovelady was not, as he stated in 1964 in an article by Dom Bonafede “I was standing on the first step” 

q Prayer Man, Billy Lovelady and Bill Shelley in the Wiegman film. Click pic to enlarge.

Lovelady had a very curious attitude as he is seen in much lower on the steps and to the left, behind Roy Lewis/Carl Edward Jones in the Hughes film. This is while the motorcade is turning on to Elm St.

Lovelady in the Robert Hughes film. Click pic. to enlarge.

Altgens 6 shows that Lovelady moved up and further to the right, his distance is further away from Lewis/Jones.

Billy Lovelady in Altgens 6, click pic. to enlarge

 

Albert Doyle and Richard Gilbride have been claiming, that Prayer Man is too short to be Oswald. This of course is not supported by anything but made-up calculations and picking up pseudo science from other peeps such as Drew Phipps and presenting pix with neat little lines and numbers that basically amount to nothing. Not one person at the forums this bunk was posted at supported any of it.

 

The kicker is that Lovelady was not standing on the top landing, because he is seen leaning against the railing in the first segment of the Wiegman film. Check his body posture compared to all other individuals on  those steps, they are all standing straight, even though Lovelady is following the events happening down Elm St and his body is turned into that direction his body posture shows he is leaning. Take a look at the 2nd segment photo and you see that Lovelady is standing straight on the steps, as he is making a move going downwards.

 

 

Lovelady leaning in Wiegman, click pic. to enlarge.

Lovelady stepping down, click pic. to enlarge.

The issue with that is you cannot lean against the railing while standing on the top landing!

See for yourself in the photograph below. The railing is mounted flush on the vertical part of the last step leading to the landing, the bar of the railing would be slightly in front of the landing.  The deniers will claim that it is still possible, yet it would be so awkward and since Lovelady’s posture doesn’t ascribe to that it is safe to say that Lovelady from standing just behind Roy Lewis / Carl Edward Jones moved upward and to the right to the 5th or the 6th step of the TSBD stairs.

 

 

Front steps TSBD

 

But why do we not throw something valuable on top and that is a stamenet by Lovelady himself in May 64 published in the NYHT by Dom Bonafede.

 

The lens Wiegman used was a wide angle lens, this creates distortions and Lovelady while moving downward as in the 2nd segment would appear slightly taller than Prayer Man since he is, by that time, standing more forward.

But what is more important is that Prayer Man is of roughly the same height as Lovelady and THAT makes Prayer Man, besides the enormous amount of other evidence a prime candidate to be Lee Harvey Oswald.

No stranger

No woman

No other TSBD worker has been identified for that position.

Oswald himself said: ”Out with Bill Shelley, in front”.

No dwarf either.

Brian Doyle and Richard Gilbride should get back to the drawing board and come up with their next scheme as this one, like their previous ones is dead in the water.

 

***

 

Then there is another issue as to what Prayer Man was doing with the shiny object he is bring towards his face.

On my calibrated screen (and if you do not have one you may experience issues seeing this clearly as I do) the Wiegman film shows he using one hand (his right) to bring iot towards his mouth. This is not a camera! But more than likely the bottle that was photographed in Prayer Man’s position after the deed.

Close-ups of Robin Unger’s gif.

 

Sniper position in DalTex building by Shel Hershorn

 

Some Shel Hershorn shots, quite rare (not any more :) ) and show a possible sniper position, which has a way better view than the so called sniper’s nest on the 6th floor of the Texas School Book Depository.

I have no idea when and  why they went into the DalTex building to take these pix of a possible sniper’s position.

ROKC Exclusive scans from the Richard E. Sprague collection at NARA.

 

I asked Bob Prudhomme what rifle was being used in these shots and he replied the following:

“This is a sporterised 6.5mm Carcano, but not the short rifle model that Oswald allegedly used. This is a sporterized 6.5mm Carcano M91 (or M91/41) long rifle. Three things give it away.

1. The distinctive protruding Carcano magazine.

2. The very obvious split bridge on the receiver, requiring the bolt handle to be almost vertical when extracting a cartridge.

3. The M91 and M91/41 were made with straight bolt handles. If you look closely, you can actually see where a gunsmith has heated this handle up with a torch, and bent it downward, giving it a more sporty look.

I might also point out that, if this is a Carcano rife (and I believe it is one), there is no way a scope could be mounted directly above the receiver, as shown here. It would have to be offset to the left of the receiver, as can be seen on C2766.

There are two reasons for having to offset the scope to the left on a Carcano.

1. As I pointed out, the bolt handle stands straight up when extracting an empty cartridge, and would hit a scope directly above the receiver. Even the bent down handles will interfere with a scope.

2. As the Carcano must be loaded with a clip, there is no way a clip can be inserted into the magazine with a scope directly above the receiver.

 

Then there is the issue as to when these were taken, well….at the education forum the discussion pointed to an old thread started by Don Roberdeau about Mack White who was in Dealey Plaza as an eleven year old.

I quote: “At one point, my father pointed out the so-called “sniper” window to me. As I was looking up, my eye wandered away from the window to the fire escape on the building across the street–the Dal-Tex building-where I saw two men taking turns looking through the scope of a rifle mounted on a tripod.

I was alarmed. “What are they doing?” I asked.

“It’s part of the investigation,” said my father.

So the police were checking out an alternative sniper perch. Evidently, that morning, there was still something resembling a real investigation. The investigation, of course, would end the next day with Oswald’s death.”

More at Mack White’s website.

 

Bluntly Speaking With Bart Kamp

Lone Gunman Podcast 115 featuring yours truly and the Malcolm Blunt interview from the Dealey Plaza Uk seminar in Canterbury on April 24th.

Rob Clark and I talk about Prayer Man, Joe Molina, Pauline Sanders, Mrs Robert Reid, Otis Williams, Marrion Baker and of course Roy Truly.

HERE

 

 

More Jim Murray aftermath photos

I went through some of the contact sheets ROKC managed to snag from Richard E Sprague’s NARA collection.

Here is another batch.

All photos: Jim Murray.

Pauline Sanders, Mrs Robert Reid and O.V. Campbell

What are the odds that both of Truly’s secretaries have the same conversation with the TSBD’s vice president just after the shooting?

Pauline Sanders who stood on top of the steps of the Texas School Book Depository, and Mrs Robert Reid who stood with Truly and Campbell near Elm St. both discussed the trajectory of where the shots came from just after the shooting, but with a few neat little twists.

Reid makes mention of it in her handwritten statement of Nov 23rd 1963, but there is one important fact that seems to be overlooked by many:

In it she says “I remarked to Mr. Campbell who was standing near by that I thought that the shots had come from our building. But I heard someone else say no, I think it was further down the street

In the FBI affidavit of Nov. 26th 1963 there is no mention of this conversation at all. Nor is there any mention of this in the Secret Service Report of Dec 4th.

And when it is time for her testimony in front of the Warren Commission that ‘someone else’ who replied to her on Nov. 22nd has become O.V. Campbell instead!

***

Pauline Sanders makes mention of the O.V. Campbell conversation on Nov. 24th in her FBI statement, and she does not repeat it anywhere else nor does she get called up to testify so that’s that.

But Sanders does have a telephone conversation with Reid and a truckload of hearsay is being relayed (with regards Oswald’s so called encounter with Reid in the 2nd floor office). And the whole thing is jotted down in support of Reid’s and Sander’s testimony.

 

 

DPUK Canterbury Seminar 2016 Videos

DPUK Canterbury Seminar 2016 Videos.

 

DPUK Canterbury Seminar 2016 cake.

 

Here are the videos of the Dealey Plaza UK Canterbury 2016 Talks.

I have kept my 2 hour talk offline, as in about a month there will be a set of movies that will be very similar to this talk, you will have to do with my moderated talk with Malcolm Blunt.

This interview will also be screened at next week’s LoneGunmanPodcast where I will be talking about the Dealey Plaza UK seminar and a few bits about Prayer Man and the up and coming movies.

 

Saturday April 23rd.

Alaric Rosman – Confusion Over The Rifle.

 

Larry Hancock – National Security Response on Nov . 22nd v Other Major Events.

 

Paul Brown – Fingerprints Of Intelligence Part 2.

 

Sunday April 24th.

Barry Keane – Address in Memory of JFK.

 

 

Malcolm Blunt Q&A with Bart Kamp.

 

 

Greg Parker – Lee Harvey Oswald’s Cold War.

 

Bill Beadle – Presidential Assassinations

 

Jean Shields – Friends & Family.

 

 

Dealey Plaza UK Seminar in Canterbury

April 23rd and 24th the Dealey Plaza UK research group held their annual seminar in Canterbury. This was the 14th edition!

Location for its attendees to present their findings was Christchurch University right next to the center. Canterbury itself is a beacon of historic monuments, some of it is a feast for the human eye.

 

 

After Stuart Galloway bid everyone welcome it was up to Alaric Rosman to talk about the confusion regarding the rifle. The large projected screen proved to be a major asset for power point presentations.

I followed Alaric with the first half of my Prayer Man talk. In this one hour slot I discussed the films and the ongoing search to obtain better copies of them and also discussed some of the TSBD employees. One hour is not enough to discuss all the details of Lovelady, Shelley, Frazier and some of the others. I could easily fill two hours on them alone!

After that most of us headed for the pub nearby to scoff on fast food and plenty of beers for us to return and for me to discuss part 2 of my talk. This segment dealt with Lee Oswald’s interrogations and the second floor lunch room encounter which went from that to there was no 2nd floor lunchroom encounter to there never was a 2nd floor at the TSBD in the first place! This last remark is a joke obviously but the collection of statements and screw ups by all involved parties destroy this particular fairy tale of nailing Oswald for the assassination.

Straight after that Larry Hancock gave an excellent presentation on National Security Response on Nov 22nd vs other major events. Great talk but staring at just a few pages with text is demanding, a few pix alongside this would make it even more interesting. Sadly Ian Griggs did not feel well enough to hold his talk about the Dallas Police Department, a real shame and I hope he will be able to do this soon at one of the mini seminars this year, I for one look very much forward to this. The man is an authority on this subject and needs to be heard

Closing off was Paul Brown’s talk Fingerprints of Intelligence part 2 (the first installment being shown in 2015). Part 3 to follow next year, I very much look forward to that.

After that we all retreated to our rooms only for us to get together again at Pilgrim’s Hotel for a lush dinner. I had the pleasure to discuss things with Malcolm Blunt who is just a vault of information regarding this case. Everyone was quite tired and most of us went back to our rooms for a well  needed sleep (I got up at 5 and by 11 I was beat…).

The next day started with Barry Keane giving an excellent opening address in memory of JFK, accompanied with a nice set of slides. This was followed by the auction of various JFK related coins, books and films all handled by Mike Dworetsky and Allan Johnson.

Then Greg Parker came on, first with the movie he had prepared for us all to discuss his vols 1 & 2 of Lee Harvey Oswald’s Cold War, after which we got him on the telephone to ask him a few questions regarding Ferrie, CAP, Oswald etc.

Then we had a quick lunch thanks to a delivery of M&S and after that Malcolm Blunt and I sat down for an hour’s long Q&A. To me this was the highlight of the weekend to be confronted with such a wealth of knowledge.

Bill Beadle followed with his talk of presidential assassinations, barely a word about JFK, but no less interesting. Without visuals a bit hard to stay focused on the info being thrown at you but a very good talk nevertheless. Jean Shields ended the seminar with her talk about Friends and Family, a subject that proved to be a welcome distraction.

Overall a really impressive line -up and above all a very amicable atmosphere among attendees and such a ton of information made available regarding this case. I cannot wait for next year’s because I am definitely there!

Thanks to Stuart Galloway who did an amazing job in setting all this up!

Developments

This coming weekend, as mentioned before I will be giving a talk at the Dealey Plaza UK conference in Canterbury, and the next day I will moderate a Q&A with Malcolm Blunt.

I have worked on the software that I used for the movie and there will be more sources to show for the fakery of the 2nd floor lunchroom encounter.

It is my intention to show more media on Lovelady, Shelley, Molina, the 4th floor ladies, the 5th floor African Americans and Roy Truly.

And the interrogations of Oswald and the main players involved with that , this will be discussed in more detail.

The Camera section will be more concise, but one cool revelation is to be added about the history of the discovery of Prayer Man. This has not been shared publicly yet.

Finally the search for the images gets a bit of an update.

I am partly going to use this talk to see where to improve before I start making new movie clips which I hope to make a beginning with in May and release these over this Summer they shall be released in approx. 25 minute segments.

In the mean time I am looking forward to two days of JFK nattering and downing a few jars! I shall be reporting about this event next week. I also hope to publish the talk with Malcolm Blunt as well.

 

Lee Oswald leafleting in New Orleans

As most of you are aware, the other week there was this story about Ted Cruz’s father Rafael Cruz Sr. being recognised as part of a group of Cuban fellas in front of the Trade Mart in New Orleans. We know that Carlos Bringuier was one of them  with Lee Oswald in the foreground handing out leaflets warning citizens to keep their hands of Cuba. The Oswald part was discussed a gazillion times and you won’t get me debating it much further. Nor will I discuss the Cruz part since it is just rubbish as well, sounds more like a smear than anything legitimate, I would not be surprised that this is a payback from the Trump camp regarding Trump’s dad and the KKK  . JFKFacts and other sites debunked this rubbish rather quick.

Then someone started mentioning that the white guy looked like Bill Shelley and there is no evidence whatsoever pointing to that. The only person one could suspect being that would be Thomas Edward Beckham, but even that is not as straight forward as it seems. Beckham is still alive btw. And that’s as much as I am getting involved on this issue.

But a fellow ROKCer went to NARA again and came across these pix, so damned if I am not going to post them.

Lee Oswald in New Orleans-ROKC Scan-1
Lee Oswald in New Orleans-ROKC Scan-3

 

Lee Oswald in New Orleans-ROKC Scan-2

DPUK Canterbury Seminar

Next weekend on April 23rd and 24th there will be another seminar run by Dealey Plaza UK, yours truly shall be there and will give 2 one hour talks.

I shall be extensively reporting about this after the event on this website. 

                                                          Programme                                             

 

Saturday 23rd April

09.45m – 10.00am            Introduction to the Seminar  by  Stuart Galloway

10.00am – 11.00am          Confusion over the Rifle by  Alaric Rosman

11.00am – 11.15am         BREAK                

11.15am – 12.15pm          Prayer Man & Texas School Book Depository by Bart Kamp

12.15pm – 1.45pm            LUNCH

 1.45pm – 2.45pm              2nd Floor Lunch Room Encounter and Oswald’s Interrogation by Bart Kamp

 2.45pm – 3.45pm              National Security Response on Nov 22nd v other major events    Larry Hancock (telephone)        

3.45pm – 4.00pm              BREAK:  

 4.00pm – 4.45pm              Fingerprints of Intelligence Part 2 – Back in the US of A by Paul Brown

 4.45pm – 5.30pm              The Cuban Underground by Jean Shields                                                                                                                                                                                                                       

 

Sunday 24th April

09.30am – 09.45am         Address in Memory of JFK by Barry Keane

09.45am – 11.00am          The DPUK Auction by Mike Dworetsky 

 11.00am – 11.10am           BREAK 

11.10am – 12.00pm            CIA and Oswald  – Question & Answer Session  with Malcolm Blunt & Bart Kamp

12.00am – 12.45pm           Lee Harvey Oswald’s Cold War (film or possibly a Q & A session)  with  Greg Parker

12.45pm – 1.45pm              LUNCH 

 1.45pm – 2.45pm               Presidential Assassinations  by  Bill Beadle

 2.45pm – 3.30pm               The Dallas Police Force by Ian Griggs           
3:30pm – 3.45pm                     Closure of the Seminar

Detective J.B. “Johnny” Hicks & Sergeant William E “Pete” Barnes

 

Detective J.B. “Johnny” Hicks & Sergeant William E “Pete” Barnes, responsible for Oswald’s finger prints (which were taken several times that weekend) and parafin test.

Photos: Jim Murray.

Thanks to Denis Morissette who pointed out that the guy in the hallway holding Oswald’s finger print card is different than William Barnes, and I cannot find his name, not even in That Day In Dallas that describes the shots Jim Murray took inside the DPD. Another mystery added……

Add on April 26th:

Linda Giovanna Zambanini posted recently on Facebook the identity of this mystery person, it is  Captain George Max Doughty who was Head of the Crime Investigation La , he was Det. W.E. “Pete” Barnes’ and Det. “Johnny” Hicks’ superior.

George Max Doughty

George Max Doughty

George Max Doughty as part of the golf team 1934. Source e-yearbook.cm

Pierce Allman

Pierce Allman

 

Pierce Allman was manager of programming and production at WFAA and an important witness to the assassination. He had a prime spot, only a few meters down on Elm from where Tina Towner was standing.

Pierce Allman (centre of photo with his back towards the lens) in Willis 6. Photo: Phil Willis. Click pic. to enlarge

What makes Allman’s testimony so interesting is that he is one of the reporters that thinks he ran into Lee Oswald just when they were entering the Texas School Book Depository. According to Allman he makes his way into the TSBD to get to a telephone to report the news to WFAA.

Added June 2020.

But! In Feb 1964 he stated in the Criminal Intelligence report that neither he nor Terrence Ford saw let alone encountered Oswald.

*****

Upon arrival inside the T.S.B.D. no one bothered to ask him who he was and only an Army  Intelligence Officer asked him to get of the line while he was using the phone. This Military Intelligence Officer is most likely James Powell, who was one of the first to enter the TSBD. According to Powell in the Secret Service Report from Feb. 5th 1964 it says he saw only two persons inside the TSBD near a desk, one of which was Allman. The other person was described as about 30 years old and being  tall.

What needs to be brought up is that the Secret Service report above is not his first interview with Allman,  they also got in touch with him about two weeks after the JFK assassination, however there is no documentation available about this.

In the video below from the 6th floor museum Pierce Allman gives an in depth interview.At 23:00 Allman starts talking about the moment just after the shots and about him making his way towards the TSBD and telephoning the news through and just before that his encounter with Lee Oswald.

According to this interview he times the moment from the final shot to his encounter with Lee Oswald at 3 minutes. He described his activities after the last shot to the audience but the Secret Service report on his actions is a bit more revealing. He ran opposite towards the grassy area where he saw the Newmans lying on the ground. Bill Newman told Pierce Allman that they were ok. Allman said he briefly lost it, and began to run, not knowing where, until he regained his composure and made his way towards the TSBD. This begs the question of course that when someone has ‘lost’ it how on earth can they time any of this? Also three minutes is cutting things fine with Oswald’s ‘escape’ from the 6th floor, then the so called 2nd floor lunchroom encounter, then a convo with Mrs Reid, then get his things and then leave, that is not taking onto consideration that Oswald talked with Bill Shelley before his departure and let’s not even take Buell Frazier’s version into account (which means he left from a  different exit!). And then there is the possible Robert MacNeil encounter as well (although this comes more from William Manchester than it did come from MacNeil himself), which supposedly happened at the same time as well: 12:33

He sends his report through, you can hear this just after the 28:00 mark and then makes his way to the 2nd floor. Why? Only for him to realise that he needs to stay close to the phone and makes his way back down there to be able to keep describing what is going on inside the TSBD. The phone in question is pictured below (which shows Kent Biffle and Virgie Rachley), the man in black in the background inside the TSBD’s first floor is using this phone.

Virgie Rachley and Kent Biffle

Sources:

LA Times

Paul Rigby.

The Telegraph.co.uk (this video was added on April 14th 2016)

 

20K

In the past month the movie managed to gain more than 10,000 views as compared to the 10,000 in the 3 months before that since its release in early December 2015.

The pace has been a steady 3/400 views per day. Absolutely amazing and I wish thank everyone, even the deniers, for watching it. I will start working on the next segment in May and gradually release the film in 20/25 minute slots.

 

 

A chat with Ian Griggs


Yesterday I met up with Ian Griggs, author of No Case To Answer.

He has been researching this case for decades and he has visited Dallas many many times (he has lost count). A former police officer himself he has dug into the Dallas Police Department more than anyone else. In the DPD section I show a brief summary of how the DPD was organised. This is all thanks to him and his  tenacious efforts in compiling this.

Obviously we discussed mostly Dallas Police related matters, and we went down his memory lane while he showed me around in his house of which one room was a mini museum with his collection, of which I post a few shots down below. I hope to do a proper interview in the near future.

Ian has interviewed quite a few people such as Beverly Oliver, James Tague, Jim Leavelle, Warren Caster to name a few, but his specialty lies with the DPD, of which he is writing another book which hopefully will be published later this year.

Some of our discussions:

  • After his article on Postal Inspector Harry Dean Holmes called The Four Faces Of Harry Dean Holmes, he was contacted by family members of Holmes and they were less than pleased with his assessment. Well they better not look at my page then ;)
  • He has been acquainted with Marina Oswald-Porter on a talk panel and she even bought him a massive plaque  of JFK. He said she asked him if he wanted some thing from an antique shop to which he replied your country is not old enough to have an antiques shop (which is a joke in case you missed it, although it has some truth to it). She went into the shop and bought it for him for about $ 25.00. Some researchers’burned’ Marina Porter, not much later and now she will not talk to anyone, which is a real shame as I and a few other scholars would love to talk to her.

JFK Plaque gifted by Marina Oswald-Porter to Ian Griggs. Pic: Barto.

  • He has tried to contact Harry Olson’s former missus Kay Coleman a few years back, but was warned not to pursue this any further. Kay Coleman remarried and lives in Ca.

Kay Coleman on the right with Jack Ruby.

  • Will Fritz bred horses.
  • The so called recording room right opposite Will Fritz’s Homicide and Robbery Division office, was not wired for sound.

Dallas Police Department Floor plan. Courtesy of No Case To Answer by Ian Griggs

 

  • Ian Griggs had a decommissioned Mannlicher-Carcano rifle. I had no measuring tape so could not say how long it was, but the rifle was broken apart, so I just held the wooden part of it and I can tell you now that there is no way that rifle could be inside the paper bag since this piece is way too long. I could not cup this underneath my shoulder and inside the palm of my hand.

Holding a Mannlicher-Carcano, which is way too long for cupping it. Pic: Barto

 

Colony Club flyer signed by Beverly Oliver

Colony Club flyer signed by Beverly Oliver. Pic: Barto

 

Dallas Police Buckle. Pic. Barto

Dallas Police Buckle. Pic. Barto

 

Jim Leavelle and RC Graves autographed phoptograph of Ruby shooting Oswald

Jim Leavelle and R.C. Graves autographed photograph of Ruby shooting Oswald.

 

  • Ian also had a nice collection of newspapers from that period, I produce two here with some interesting bits related to ‘our’ case, I hope to be able to reproduce more in the future.

Kingsport Times Nov 22nd 1963. Pic: Barto

 

Kingsport News Nov 23rd 1963. Pic Barto

 

  • Last but not least a time sheet of some major Dallas Police Department Officers from Nov 1963.
Dallas Police Department Time Sheet Nov 1963

Dallas Police Department Time Sheet Nov 1963

I hope to see Ian again at the Dealey Plaza UK Canterbury conference on April 23rd/24th where I will present a Prayer Man talk and also will be doing a Q&A with Malcolm Blunt.

I have also been notified that my chat with Rob Clark of the Lone Gunman Podcast has become the highest listened to show so far, not bad indeed! Thank you Robbo!!!

Jim Murray The Knoll Photos

Some more ROKC Scans of Jim Murray. The knoll falls outside my remit but hopefully they will offer some value to somebody else.

Good hunting! All photos by Jim Murray.

10K

The movie has gone past the 10.000 mark. I have to say that I am really chuffed by the numbers and the recent two weeks has seen a dramatic increase of almost 300 views per day.

Thanks to everyone who viewed Prayer Man The Movie Version 1!!!

Add on March 8th 2016:  In the last two weeks the film amassed another 4,000 hits! Compared to 7,300 in 11,5 weeks before.

What will happen with V2?

What I can tell you is that the format will be the same but this time they will be presented as individual movies, so there will be 5 or 6 clips of about 25 mins each. There will be a lot more new graphics and content and I hope to start in a few months time. It will be a different movie.

 

The Lone Gunman Postcast #104

I have had the pleasure to talk with Rob Clark for the Lone Gunman Podcast.

So far it has been the top listened to show of all 104 eps in the first 24 hours.

It was good fun and in a few months there will be some sort of follow-up with all the progress.

Goodreads

I got a mention on Goodreads, alongside the review of Stan Dane’s book.

“In 2015 Dealey Plaza U.K. held a presentation by a researcher named Bart Kamp which studied the image known as ‘Prayer Man’. Mr. Kamp hopes to publish his findings in 2016. His video is available on You Tube. In the meantime I found out about this 2015 publication from Stan Dane.”

I am chuffed :)

 

Review on GoodReads

Peggy Joyce Hawkins

Peggy Joyce Bibbler – Hawkins

Peggy Joyce Hawkins (maiden name Bibbler) met her husband at the TSBD along with her child, she stood roughly 50 feet away from the Texas School Book Depository when the shots rang out and she hid behind the retaining wall. After realising no more shots were being fired and  returning to the TSBD she saw a policeman stand there, and heard some remarks about the railroad yard through the police radio.

Truly and Baker, leg sticking out behind tall fella. Click pic. to enlarge.

The Darnell film only shows Baker’s run, it does not show him going up the steps, it has been automatically assumed he dashed up the stairs before Roy Truly could catch up with him. The story of them going up the stairs together has always been met with disbelief. You can see Truly in the Darnell film slowly turning and making his way towards the front steps, but at a slow speed compared to Baker. Then again the steps were pretty filled up with employees, some had left but others were returning and the whole east side of the steps was filled with mostly women looking out and discussing what had happened and Joe Molina stood at the very top. Buell Wesley Frazier stood dead centre.

But Peggy Joyce Hawkins. statement puts some doubt into this. This you can see at the bottom of page 1 of her FBI statement. She walked back to the TSBD and saw a motorcycle police officer in front of the building. Now unless some other motorcycle police officer went there it could be assumed that Marrion L. Baker stood longer outside than has been assumed.

The radio transmission she speaks of is Jesse Curry’s who said this while the cars were passing the triple underpass.

At 12:30 Have my office move all available men out of my office into the railroad yard to try to determine what happened in there and hold everything secure until Homicide and other investigators should get there.

She also made her way back into the building, and this is confirmed by the so called roll call sheet. This roll call sheet itself isn’t much from an evidentiary p.o.v., as Geraldine Reid is mentioned twice, Charles Douglas Givens is missing and Lee Oswald is right at the top (which points more to his name being taken down from the word go than him being the missing person!).

What doesn’t help is the second page of her FBI statement that she doesn’t remember who she encountered while making her way back. And let’s face it, this is a black hole overall with most statements from that day.

But then there is Robert Mac Neil, a journalist, who was part of the motorcade and who went into the TSBD to make a phone call. This call being logged at 12:36 and him stating that he did not see any police inside the building while making the call, and this has a ring of truth to it, since his head office reported the time, but also looking at the radio transmissions and the prders of going to the TSBD and investigate further.

At 12:34 I just talked to a guy up here who was standing close to it and the best he could tell it came from the Texas School Book Depository Building here with that Hertz Renting sign on top.

At 12:36 Witness says shots came from fifth floor, Texas Book Depository Store and Houston and Elm. I have him with me now and we are sealing off the building.

At 12:37 Get some men up here to cover this school depository building. It’s believed the shot came from, as you see it on Elm Street, it would be upper right hand corner, second window from the end.

 


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Peggy Joyce Hawkins-2

Peggy Joyce Bibbler - Hawkins Roll Call

Robert Mac Neil FBI Statement

 

I am now pretty convinced Baker and Truly stood outside, this witness testimony in conjunction with Chris Davidson’s gif which shows Baker veering further to the right than the actual steps.

 

 

Add on Jan 30th

This might be Peggy Bibbler Hawkins standing and holding her child. If this is her then she had an excellent vantage point to hear the motorcycle belonging to Marrion Baker and look towards the front entrance of the Texas School Book Depository.

 

Peggy Bibbler Hawkins

Click picture to enlarge.

 

Ochus Virgil Campbell in the NYHT

I try to get the best possible quality media and graphics for the movie I have done and also for the next version I want to release this year. For this I had a little list of gaps that needed to be filled in. One of the pieces I wanted to get was the article from the New York Herald Tribune from Nov 22nd. In research circles this article contains a quote by Ochus V. Campbell which has been used by Sean Murphy i/e, but I never managed to see the article itself. If I am not mistaken it was Sylvia Meagher who used it in her book Accessories After The Fact as a first, but no one actually bothered to dig it out.

At ROKC we had a little discussion and I pointed out I wanted to have this piece for my film and after I found the actual physical copy of it on eBay and noted that the postage was 150% of the actual sale price Stan Dane who wrote Prayer Man: Out of the Shadows and Into the Light, graciously offered to buy it for me. Once he got it in his mail box he made a high res scan and sent it to me.

Sadly there isn’t a way to ascertain who actually wrote the piece, but what matters is that I have the physical piece that shows the quote by Ochus Campbell. He was Roy Truly’s boss. He is to this day quite an elusive character and very little is known about him, nor have I many pictures of Ochus Virgil Campbell. If you read this and you do, please contact me, as all we have so far is him standing next to Roy Truly in the Wiegman film on the far right of the frame below.

Ochus V Campbell, click pic to enlarge.

Stan Dane posted a piece about this on his Prayer Man FB page. Next thing I know Vince Palamara picked up upon this as well, I feel left out dammit ;)

So here is the scan of this particular piece from the New York Herald Tribune. What is so special about this?

Well for starters it is a direct quote, the actual article was written on Nov. 22nd and published on the day after. And this is important information that confirms that Oswald was on the 1st floor in the TSBD close after the shooting of JFK. What is also interesting is that Ochus Campbell, as time progressed, tried to distance himself more and more from Lee Oswald; that he barely knew him and so on. The documents regarding this can be viewed at the Ochus Campbell page.

Ochus Virgil Campbell in the NYHT Nov 22 1963

The 6th floor window in the Robert Hughes film

Robert Hughes

Robert Hughes

On Nov 26th 1963 Robert Hughes hands over his film which he shot while the motorcade was turning from Houston on to Elm St. on Nov 22nd 1963.

The FBI initially investigates and reckons there is a person visible in the window where the so called sniper’s nest is located. But they change their mind once the film is being studied in Washington.

Although the FBI had the Hughes film in its possession 4 days (Nov 26th 1963) after the Big Event, the WC decided not to use it. This is an important FACT! Actually the WC barely used anything from that day while they were aware of most photographs and film footage they choose not to admit it into evidence.

In a memo dated Nov 26th it says it appears that there may be someone in the 6th floor window.

This is repeated in a memo on Nov 28th by A. Rosen to Alan Belmont

Alan Belmont  writes on Nov 28th, the same day he received the memo from Rosen without any further evidence besides jumping on the band wagon that he can see one person in the window.

A memo by Robert Barrett makes the same claim, let’s also add that this particular finding comes from Dallas first and foremost. The FBI lab in Wa. has not had their hands on the Hughes film yet and investigate this particular claim. And this shift from Dallas to Washington is where things seem to change!!!

The FBI makes 10 copies of the film according to the memo on Dec 9th (check out all the signatures!) and guess what? They reported they could NOT SEE ANY HUMAN FORM in that window.

But it is getting better! In a memo (which includes Belmont as one of the recipients btw!) from Dec 10th  by W.D. Griffth it is repeated that no human form is visible.

Not only does the FBI investigate this in WA. and comes to the conclusion I just mentioned.. They want a second opinion and the FBI sends it to the Navy Photographic Interpretation Centre and they conclude the same.  

Richard E. Sprague adds on that there is no rifle showing either. From a timing perspective this makes it rather difficult to conclude that 3 shots have been fired from that very same window.

 

Memo Nov 26th 1963

Memo Nov 26th 1963

FBI Memo Rosen to Belmont Nov 28th 1963

FBI Memo Rosen to Belmont Nov 28th 1963

Memo by Robert Barrert Nov 30th 1963

Memo Dec 9th FBI-10 copies of Hughes film made

Memo Dec 9th 1963-1

Memo Dec 9th 1963-2

Memo Dec 9th 1963-2

FBI Report stating they can not see any human form in Hughes-1

FBI Report stating they can not see any human form in Hughes-1

FBI Report stating they can not see any human form in Hughes-2

FBI Report stating they can not see any human form in Hughes-2

WD Griffth Memo Dec 10 1963

Sprague, Richard E., Monographs

I Due K

I Due Kennedy is an Italian documentary from 1969. It is about John and Robert Kennedy. There is some footage that I had not seen about some of the witnesses involved so I took some still grabs which you see in the gallery below.

There was a lot of footage from Africa and Civil Rights related stuff, and mobsters, Castro you name it. I only know some basic Italian so I struggled with understanding what was being said all the time. Still good to see and capture a few images of importance.

The Death of Prayer Woman

The Death of Prayer Woman

 

It has been an interesting week during the break during the X-Mas and New Years period, but for us ROKCers this last week we made some cool discoveries and achieve a thing or two yay!

I shall begin with the most important one and that is the complete and utter destruction of the phenomena called Prayer Woman, something created by Duncan MacRae of the JFKAssassination forum in September 2015. This was done at the time when the stranger scenario as an alternative to anyone else from the TSBD was completely killed off by yours truly and the spread sheets demonstrating this (this was based on Richard Hocking’s and Sean Murphy’s deduction work). This stranger scenario was completely debunked by the testimonies of almost all of the TSBD employees such as in CE 1381.

Duncan MacRae hails from Glasgow Scotland and has an interest in the photographic evidence, so he says. His knowledge of the technical side of photography is practically non existent  and he relies on a few friends (such as Craig Lamson from Ft. Wayne in Indiana) who don’t seem to fare much better or other clowns who hide behind fugezi names, such as John Mytton (this person has been dead for 200 years already). I find people who hide behind fictitious names total cowards and above all I will not listen to one word they say as everything they do say is suspect from the word get go. This goes especially for the next individual.

Albert Doyle, in JFK Research, he is probably one of the most manipulative zealots that is gracing this club. He uses his dead father’s name. How do I and my fellow ROKCers know this? That is because several of us have looked into this and so has Tom Scully. This member has been accused of being a CIA plant at the Deep Politics Form in 2012 and got others banned where it should have been him who should have been shown the door. Since then this individual has mostly posted vile and utter garbage messages on various forums relating to the JFK Assassination.

Albert Doyle has been confronted with this BS and he keeps quiet when this is happening. Our suspicion is that it is his son Brian Doyle (wonder what his brothers and sisters Stephen Doyle, Patricia Doyle, Christine Doyle and Theresa Doyle think of this?).  There are three accounts at Amazon handled by this ‘person’. One is his dead dad, the other under the name Brain Doyle and the third by the name Ralph Yates (a character from the JFK Assassination-era) .  Three accounts all by one person, think of this what you will….

His review at Amazon on Stan Dane’s book reads as follows (bear in mind Amazon does not allow links to outside sources so they are not included).

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The Reopen The Kennedy Case (ROKC) website is behind this book as Stan Dane and Greg Parker are regular organizing members. A month ago Assassination researcher Duncan MacRae posted a blow-up of the film frame image of Prayer Man taken by WBAP camera-man James Darnell. The blow-up image clearly shows the long dark hair and arm posture of a woman, therefore refuting the thesis of this book that Prayer Man is Lee Harvey Oswald. But even better the MacRae blow-up clearly shows 4 buttons (or fasteners) on the garment worn by Prayer Man, the bottom-most of which is too low to be on any clothing worn by Oswald. This is clear proof that the coat or dress being worn by Prayer Man could not possibly match the known clothing worn by Oswald that day.

If you look at the link below you’ll see MacRae’s blown-up image of Prayer Man in the portal of the Texas School Book Depository in Dealey Plaza taken seconds after president Kennedy was shot. MacRae has drawn arrows pointing to the buttons, or possible loop or cloth fasteners, that are clearly visible in the blow-up. There’s no doubt that these are coat or dress buttons or fasteners because they appear exactly where they should be if so. So anyone credibly researching this claim would need to answer for them and how they affect the evidence. If you scan this review section or the internet in general those who subscribe to the Oswald as Prayer Man theory refuse to even address this conclusive evidence. They stay away from it like the Wicked Witch Of The West avoids water. They even falsely claim the buttons are an artifact of computer enlargement, however they can’t substantiate that once forced into the technical detail involved with such a claim. Their claim that the buttons are pixel quirks caused by the film grain being too small for enlargement actually works against them once you credibly analyze it. They can’t explain how there would be 4 buttons right where they should be?

The buttons or fasteners are prime evidence that Oswald cannot be Prayer Man because the lowest of the buttons is too low to match Oswald’s known clothing that day. The ROKC Prayer Man advocates have been conspicuously, self-destructively, and uncredibly unable to answer this. Instead they run from it and try to ignore it. In doing so they forfeit the credibility of their entire website.

Here is MacRae’s blow-up of Prayer Man. The buttons or fasteners are plainly visible and therefore require credible scientific explanation. So far ROKC hasn’t been able to give any:

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You would think Albert “Dead Man Walking” Doyle has some sort of expertise under his belt, but unless it is trolling he has no qualifications when it comes to any type of photography, he doesn’t even know how to post an image on a forum……..I kid you not. And he is  being lambasted for it by a group of deniers. I shall spare you all the details as it is page after page at a certain forum.

The funniest thing is that Doyle-MacRae-Lamson do not have much in common. Doyle is a conspiracy theorist whereas the other two are of the opposite opinion (Oswald did it), it makes an amusing read especially when one has to consider that MacRae is just winding Doyle up.

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I shall attach some of the pix which are still grabs from the three youtube films Duncan MacRae has plastered on the web and a gif all regarding the fugezi called Prayer Woman.

 

MacRae does not supply any supporting evidence for his assertion(s) besides a set of squares and arrows that supposedly show a purse,  a black plastic shopping bag and more importantly a set of buttons of a large overcoat.

The coloring in image two is a leftover after messing with brightness, contrast and possibly sharpening.  Nor do I have an explanation for the blackening of the area to the right of Prayer Man (the window behind him), perhaps Duncan MacRae does……..what I do know is that it has been added and is not a result of lowering the density. Compare that image with any of the others in that section and you will realise that what happened to the glass behind Prayer Man simply isn’t right.

The Jimmy Darnell Film

Let me explain why Duncan MacRae, Albert Doyle and Craig Lamson are just way way off. Below you see a screen grab of the Darnell film (shot on 16mm film originally), this is how big the actual image is in digital format from a DVD , and it also shows you how big Prayer Man actually is inside this pic. This screen grab is from the Beyond JFK: The Question Of Conspiracy DVD that came with JFK The Movie. So for starters what generational copy are we talking about here?

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The original Darnell film is gone (it went with the Wiegman film to NBC in NY and has never been seen since), we know that the 6th Floor Museum has a 1st generation copy  so let’s assume it is this copy that the producers used. So this 1st generation copy was duplicated and then of course duplicated for the DVD of which we have  a still grab,  but it is saved in a compressed format as a jpeg.

It could be even worse from a quality p.o.v. with this grab, and we think this is actually the case. We think that it is a copy from video tape and not the 1st generation copy film itself. This would make the end result even less crisp and more fuzzier and could import artifacts such as the ones shown in the still image above, which are hard to see but which I shall enlarge, adjust its levels and show below. The image is littered with dots and streaks.

Prayer Man

Click on picture to enlarge.

There are a few enlarging techniques that can be used. I don’t know what was used for the image posted by Sean Murphy.

One is to increase is its actual size, another is to increase its dpi (dots per inch) and within these two a few elements can be (un)ticked such as scale styles, constrain proportion and resample image.

Then there is also which way to resample the image and from that there is an array to choose from:

Automatic

Photoshop chooses the resampling method based on the document type and whether the document is scaling up or down.

Preserve Details (enlargement)

When this method is chosen, a Noise reduction slider becomes available for smoothing out noise as you upscale the image.

Bicubic Smoother (enlargement)

A good method for enlarging images based on Bicubic interpolation but designed to produce smoother results.

Bicubic Sharper (reduction)

A good method for reducing the size of an image based on Bicubic interpolation with enhanced sharpening. This method maintains the detail in a resampled image. If Bicubic Sharper oversharpens some areas of an image, try using Bicubic.

Bicubic (smoother gradients)

A slower but more precise method based on an examination of the values of surrounding pixels. Using more complex calculations, Bicubic produces smoother tonal gradations than Nearest Neighbour or Bilinear.

Nearest Neighbor (hard edges)

A fast but less precise method that replicates the pixels in an image. This method preserves hard edges and produces a smaller file in illustrations containing edges that are not anti-aliased. However, this method can produce jagged effects, which become apparent when you distort or scale an image or perform multiple manipulations on a selection.

Bilinear

A method that adds pixels by averaging the color values of surrounding pixels. It produces medium-quality results.

I myself have not played around a lot with the image when it comes to enlarging it, I am of the opinion that a larger scan needs to become available first, even though the image we have shows a lot of detail and we have discovered a lot of people who are in this shot, a better image is still needed to make it the icing on the cake. The only way to enlarge the image I have done is by using Bicubic Smoother, which is overall used to enlarge images.

Increasing its size will increase  its exposure of digital artifacts, something Albert “Dead Man Walking” Doyle and Duncan MacRae fail to understand.

The image below is an image that Sean Murphy posted, and as you can see this image has already been enlarged and enhanced it displays some of the artifacts already. The purpose of Sean Murphy posting these two photos next to each other was to point out the similarities when it comes to features between Prayer Man and lee Harvey Oswald.

Duncan MacRae uses this image and manipulates it to such an extend with additional brightness/contrast/sharpening adjustments to point out that he is a she and that she is wearing a large overcoat, holds a purse and a back plastic bag. You can check out all this conjecture out in the slideshow above with the still grabs of his videos.

Ok so let’s start rebutting this utter rubbish. The enhancement that has been applied  is visible in the entire image and not just in the close-up, something that Albert Doyle, Duncan MacRae and Craig Lamson steadfastly ignore and/or keep quiet about. The photo below shows the so called buttons which are attributed to fantasise about Prayer Woman’s overcoat are visible in all the parts of the picture below in the grey squares, the streaks and buttons most likely come from the transfer from video tape to digital capture and enhancement. If you take the original image of Darnell above and crank up its size then you can see the artifacts already. The buttons story was dead the day it was ‘invented’. This is something Craig Lamson could have pointed out yonks ago and stop the discussion of this drivel there and then. But the local ‘expert’ kept schtumm instead.
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Prayer Woman Dead and Buried

Click on picture to enlarge.

 

The bags and the purse are as easy to refute and this is mainly because Duncan MacRae’s sloppy observational work.

The plastic shopping bag is actually human hair. The red circled person was discovered two years ago due to her foot sticking out, but the head part was always fuzzy, and only a few weeks ago when Mick Purdy sharpened the Darnell image his way did the distinction become clearer, and that she had quite a big hairdo. So that kills the black shopping bag besides the button theory as well.

Human Hair PM

Click on picture to enlarge.

 

Finally the purse. Besides a quick drawing around a suspected area Duncan MacRae offers nothing else in support of the purse theory either (a pattern has started to emerge…..).

In the Dave Wiegman film  Prayer Man is holding an object that seems to reflect considerably. In the shots below you will see he holds it either in front of his mouth or holds it in front of his chest. Now as a photographer who has worked in advertising and shooting stills many years ago only a few objects can create such a reflection, one would be a shiny metal object. The other glass. Now let’s also bear in mind where Prayer Man is standing: in the shadow. The object he is holding is in front of him and may just catch a ray or two on the edge of that particular shadow.

Check out the 2 fuzzy images below.

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Here is a drastic enlargement I managed to make from a scan we obtained from NARA in Nov. 2015

Prayer Man in Wiegman-ROKC Scan Nov 2015

 

Now then what purse would make such a reflection? That better be some huge diamond on there. And let me just emphasise, even with the quality of the image above, Prayer Man is anything but feminine.

A more plausible scenario would be that Prayer Man is drinking from a bottle, and this could be partially backed with the Wiegman images and the ones that were taken after the Dallas Police Department had secured their so called ‘crime scene’ being The Texas School Book Depository. Important element to add is that the bottle was there for quite some time, since it is still there when female TSBD employees are captured leaving and so is Captain Will Fritz

Check the gallery (all pix by William Allen) below.

 

  1. When asked for the actual files Duncan MacRae of the JFKAssassinationForum used, he refused to hand them over, later on claiming they were deleted.
  2. When asked after that reply to redo his movements with the images he refused to do so as well. . He did invite us to go to his forum, when he actually put his claim of Prayer woman and her buttons and bag actually at the Education Forum so the point of us going there is?
  3. The invite made no logical sense to debate Craig Lamson over there since he is a member at EF and could have jumped in that thread at any time, but they would have liked us to go there only to be entrapped by half a dozen deniers.
  4. Craig Lamson produced an image for us to check the EXIF data on but it had absolutely nothing to do with the Darnell images, it was a close-up of a plane.
  5. When he asked me whether I would be willing to hand over my images to say Michael Cross I offered them up without hesitation. Michael Cross had nothing to do with ROKC and from a photography p.o.v. challenged D.M. way before I did. Michael is now a member at ROKC btw.

 

Avoidance is meaningful.

When someone avoids a question, it’s because they are hiding something. When you avoid providing files, it’s because you are hiding them and do not want to admit it.

When the slightest mention of what it means if PM is a man is avoided, then it is because the consequences of it are being avoided also. It plays to the PW ploy to argue over PW images because none of the naysayers wish to entertain one word of what a male gender PM proves, and that is that he is Lee Oswald. That is not just from looking at a fuzzy picture but also from the barrage of evidence that is there from his interrogations and the fugezi regarding the 2nd floor lunch room encounter. All explained in my movie Only The Shadow Knows – Prayer Man, More Than Just a Fuzzy Picture.  (the hint is in the title….in case you did not twig it)

So let’s set aside the truth of what the gender really is for a moment, the proof consequence of even the hypothetical male gender is nearly as toxic as is actual proof of male gender. Keep that cat inside the bag and the bag inside the box.

Because of their avoidance of a discussion of the meaning of PM’s gender, the unassailability of the logic of identification by process of elimination is confirmed as is the completeness and integrity of the analysis in this case.

By virtue of their own avoidance, they are freely admitting that Prayer Man is proved to be Oswald if Prayer Man is male. I simply refer to my spread sheets based on Sean Murphy’s and Richard Hocking’s work. It’s evident also that this Prayer Woman fiasco was started after the stranger scenario was killed off by my spreadsheets and bringing up CE1310.

Not one detail of it has been disputed except to debate the gender of PM, and that wasn’t even inside the matrix inside the box, Oswald was.

Now as to the pictures used in the movies you posted on YouTube, as Ed Ledoux has clearly shown that Duncan MacRae did alter the images, the enormous increase in contrast and density is a prime example but also the paint job he did ever so crudely on the window behind Prayer Man.

Then the method of alteration, it proves absolutely nothing at all. The method cannot be verified, which means he has entered badgeman-land and it is merely an opinion nothing more than that and furthermore if I may add it defies common sense.

Barely anyone else (and the ones that do have shown their true colors) can see in the image what you pretend is there and only with the assistance of arrows, outlines and inserted text to push people over the edge to believe this charade.

What almost everyone seems to forget is the fact that the photograph from the Darnell film is the icing on the cake, it is NOT the irrefutable proof that Oswald is standing outside with Shelley (as he said during his interrogation) and later with Buell Wesley Frazier as has come to light with the documentation that is available and the newspaper reports published that day and the next two days after.

I think it is safe to say that Duncan MacRae’s Prayer Woman theory (!!!) died a death, and there is no need to discuss this fugezi any further.

Albert Doyle take some notes in between trolling and learn to understand the basics of photography.

Craig Lamson show some backbone you spineless wanker. Really your behavior is way below par.

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Add on March 28th 2016:

Duncan MacRae has more or less pulled away from all this, and by his own admittance claimed it was a wind up, but Albert Doyle has lied his way continuously ever since my last writings. Shifted his musings to wherever he could, to avoid having to supply direct answers asked by others and he himself completely failed to produce one iota of evidence himself. In 2012 he was accused by others of being a CIA plant, why doesn’t this sound stupid at all…………..

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Linda Giovanna Zambanini has made some startling discoveries while looking at some of the Jim Murray photos I published a month or so ago, this particular shot has Maddie Reese and the lady in black who can be seen in Altgens 6, Wiegman and Darnell. It looks, from the paperwork that this is Ruth Dean, although it also could be Sarah Stanton. But I need to see a picture of Sarah Stanton before I lean either way. For now I stick with Ruth Dean, which makes the search for Sarah Stanton just more interesting.

Here they are on the right.

In front of the Dal Tex building. Maddie Reese and

In front of the Dal Tex building. Maddie Reese and Ruth Dean.

 

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Then there is the notification we just got that the Mary Ferrell site has published the best books of 2015. Not only is Greg Parker’s Lee Harvey Oswald’s Cold War: Why the Kennedy Assassination should be Reinvestigated – Volumes One & Two in it but so is Stan Dane’s book  Prayer Man: Out of the Shadows and into the Light and there is a  link to my film mentioned in this segment. Thanks very much Rex Bradford!

Prayer Man by Stan Dane and LHO Cold War by Greg Parker

Billy Nolan Lovelady and Bill Shelly did leave the steps almost immediately after the shots were fired

Billy Nolan Lovelady and Bill Shelly did leave the steps almost immediately after the shots were fired.

 

This post has been amended on Jan 29th, Feb 14th, Feb 16th, Oct. 14th 2016. and Aug. 29th 2017.

And Oct. 30th and Nov 7th 2018.

I am going to put an end to this debate whether Lovelady and Shelly stayed on the steps as they claimed in their Warren Commission testimonies and to which certain people subscribe  to for some obscure reason, there is just plenty to refute this rubbish assertion.

Photo evidence.

For starters, take a look at the Gerda Dunckel gifs below and check Lovelady’s shirt in the very first few frames and also check out the large still I snagged from PBS Breaking The News, click to enlarge, yes that shirt is checkered, compare it to other garments of a lighter colour or the polka dot coat which do not smudge due to  motion and quality loss. Then look at Shelly, with his black suit and his facial and hair features. For reference of who we are talking about I suggest you check out Billy Lovelady’s and Bill Shelley’s pages I have made which contain plenty of photographs of these two individuals. Both pages are still under construction but there is plenty to see from a visual point of view.

 

 

Lovelady and Shelly in Couch-1

Click on pic. to enlarge.

Upon looking at the image by Couch we see that Shelly wears a black jacket and that Lovelady’s shirt has black horizontal stripes in it. I will place a close-up below. This is not the end result of sharpening and cannot be construed as a digital artefact. Click to enlarge the shot above and you will see that these stripes are nowhere else to be seen on this image. The polka dot coat stays as is, the camouflage/dot coat as well. And even in the light toned skirts/coats there are no such markings to be seen.

Here is a collage of Lovelady’s shirt in many settings.

Lovelady collage

Click pic. to enlarge.

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Add on photographs Oct 14th 2016.

This ROKC Scan of a Couch film still at first looks very harsh and doesn’t overall have much information, but it does happen to show a lot regarding our illustrious duo. This print comes from the Richard E. Sprague Collection from the National Archives.

 

billy-lovelady-and-bill-shelley-in-malcolm-couch-rokc-scan

Click on pic to enlarge.

I applied various ways of sharpening with overall decent results to be absolutely positive that these two are Shelley and Lovelady. Lovelady’s shirt is a dead give away and so is the shape of Shelley, compare that with the collage below.

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Click on pic to enlarge.

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Click on pic to enlarge.

Thanks to Ed Ledoux. Lovelady’s bald patch and Shelley’s white sports shirt collar are recognisable as well.

 

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Now let’s have a look at the paperwork such as Lovelady’s and Shelley’s statements and testimonies.

Billy Lovelady

Lovelady’s very first handwritten statement on Nov 22nd 1963 makes no mention of Oswald even after he is paraded past him.

But that very same statement also makes no mention of them (him and Shelley) leaving the steps either. He actually states: ”After it was over we went back into the building and went to work” With the ‘went to work’ bit stricken through. This bit is omitted from the typed up and signed report. See the first two documents below.

But then Billy Lovelady states in the FBI report by Robert M. Barrett from the same day as his affidavit to the DPD: immediately after hearing the shots he and Shelly started running towards the Presidential car, but it sped away west on Elm Street under the triple underpass. He and Shelley then returned to the Texas School Book Depository Building”. During this time he saw no one run out of the building or saw no suspicious individuals. 

Lovelady also mentions in document CE 1381, from March 1964, the following: “I recall that following the shooting, I ran toward the spot where President Kennedy’s car had stopped William Shelley and myself stayed in that area for approximately five minutes when we then re-entered the Depository building by the side door located on the west side of the building”.

In all fairness I have to add that overall CE 1381 took statements from the 73 employees of the TSBD and were asked a specific set of questions compiled by the Commission via Hoover to answer to. Something Harold Weisberg decades ago already. But most answers from T.S.B.D. personnel were generic, whereas Lovelady’s is much more specific with his movements.

Add on Aug. 29th 2017:

Then Lovelady talked to a reporter of The Houston Post on the 22nd as well. Lovelady describes W.B. Barnett who ran in front of them towards the rail road yards. Which corresponds with the still photograph of the Couch film.

 

Joe Marshall Smith, Bill Shelley and Billy Lovelady in the Couch film. Click photo to enlarge.

 

Bill Shelley.

Shelly (trying to enter the police vehicle) leaves for the DPD station at 13:30 with Danny Arce Garcia and Bonnie Ray Williams as seen below.

Bill Shelly Bonnie Ray Williams Danny Arce Garcia Dealey Plaza-ROKC Scan

 

He states in his very first D.P.D. affidavit on Nov. 22nd  “I ran across the street to a corner of the park. I ran into a girl crying and she said the president had been shot. This girls name is Gloria Calvery. Who is an employee of this same building. I went back to the building and went inside and called my wife and told her what happened.”  This first statement, like Lovelady’s, contains no reference to Lee Harvey Oswald either. I also value this first statement for the inclusion of him running across after the shots were fired.

FBI Statement of Bill Shelly March 18th 1964 CE 1381: “Immediately following the shooting Billy Lovelady and I left…….”

The primary statements of these two  contradict their  WC testimony which no one bothered to ask about while they were giving their testimony.

Warren Commission Testimonies.

Now the only thing that I find true of their WC testimonies is the fact that they left the steps together.

Their timings are way off and Weisberg addressed their rubbish 50 years ago already. Go to his archive and read about it: William Shelley and Billy Lovelady.

In Shelly’s WC testimony things are given a nice twist, they stay there for a minute, they have Gloria Calvery coming up the steps doing her bit which contradicts his first statement. The island gets a mention here. Truly and Baker are seen after 3 or 4 minutes! And then they leave and then are re-entering through the back of the building.
Mr. BALL. Then what happened?
Mr. SHELLEY. Gloria Calvary from South-Western Publishing Co. ran back up there crying and said “The President has been shot” and Billy Lovelady and myself took off across the street to that little, old island and we stopped there for a minute.
Mr. BALL. Across the street, you mean directly south?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes, slightly to the right, you know where the light is there?
Mr. BALL. Yes.
Mr. SHELLEY. That little, old side street runs in front of our building and Elm Street.
Mr. BALL. It dead ends?
Mr. SHELLEY. There’s concrete between the two streets.
Mr. BALL. Elm Street dead ends there just beyond the building, doesn’t it?
Mr. SHELLEY. Well, that’s also Elm that goes under the triple underpass.
Mr. BALL. That is Elm that goes under the triple underpass?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes.
Mr. BALL. You went to the concrete between the two Elm Streets?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes, where they split.
Mr. BALL. You went out there and then what did you do?
Mr. SHELLEY. Well, officers started running down to the railroad yards and Billy and I walked down that way.
Mr. BALL. How did you get down that way; what course did you take?
Mr. SHELLEY. We walked down the middle of the little street.
Mr. BALL. The dead-end street?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Did you see Truly, Mr. Truly and an officer go into the building?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yeah, we saw them right at the front of the building while we were on the island.
Mr. BALL. While you were out there before you walked to the railroad yards?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes.
Mr. FALL. Do you have any idea how long it was from the time you heard those three sounds or three noises until you saw Truly and Baker going into the building?
Mr. SHELLEY. It would have to be 3 or 4 minutes I would say because this girl that ran back up there was down near where the car was when the President was hit.
Mr. BALL. She ran back up to the door and you had still remained standing there?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Going to watch the rest of the parade were you?
Mr. SHFZLEY. Yes.
Mr. BALL. The Vice President hadn’t gone by, had he, by your place?
Mr. SHELLEY. I don’t know. I didn’t recognize him. I did recognize Mr. Kennedy and his suntan I had been hearing about.
Mr. BALL. How did you happen to see Truly?
Mr. SHELLEY. We ran out on the island while some of the people that were out watching it from our building were walking back and we turned around and we saw an officer and Truly.
Mr. BALL. And Truly?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Mr. SHELLEY. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Did you see them go into the building7
Mr. SHELLEY. So; we didn’t watch that long but they were at the first step like they were fixin’ to go in.
Mr. BALL. Were they moving at the time, walking or running?
Mr. SHELLEY. Well, they were moving, yes.
Mr. BAL.L. Were they running?
Xr. SHELLEY. That, I couldn’t swear to; there were so many people around.
Mr. BALL. What did you and Billy Lovelady do?
Mr. SHELLEY. We walked on down to the flrst railroad track there on the dead-end street and stood there and watched them searching cars down there in the parking lots for a little while and then we came in through our parking lot at the west end.
Mr. BALL. At the west end?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes ; and then in the side door into the shipping room.
Mr. BILL. When you came into the shipping room did you see anybody?
Mr. SHELLEY. I saw Eddie Piper.
Mr. BALL. What was he doing?
Mr. SHELLEY. He was coming back from where he was watching the motorcade in the southwest corner of the shipping room.
Mr. BALL. Of the first floor of the building?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Who else did you see?
Nr. SHELLEY. That’s all we saw immediately.
Mr. BALL. Did you ever see Vickie Adams?
Mr. SHELLEY. I saw her that day but I don’t remember where I saw her.
Mr. BALL. You don’t remember whether you saw her when you came back?
Mr. SHELLEY. It was after we entered the building.
Mr. BALL. You think you did see her after you entered the building?
Nr. SHELLEY. Yes, sir; I thought it was on the fourth floor awhile after that.
Mr. BALL. Now, did the police come into the building?
Illr. SHELLEY. Yes, sir ; they started coming in pretty fast.
Mr. BALL. Did you go with them any place?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes; Mr. Truly left me guarding the elevator, not to let anybody up and down the elevator or stairway and some plainclothesmen came in; I don’t know whether they were Secret Service or FBI or what but they wanted me to take them upstairs, so we went up and started searching the various floors.

Billy Lovelady fantasises even some more.

I have added some notes in bold.

Mr. BALL – Now, when Gloria came up you were standing near Mr. Shelley?
Mr. LOVELADY – Yeah.
Mr. BALL – When Gloria came up and said the President had been shot, Gloria Calvary, what did you do?
Mr. LOVELADY – Well, I asked who told her. She said he had been shot so we asked her was she for certain or just had she seen the shot hit him or–she said yes, she had been right close to it to see and she had saw the blood and knew he had been hit but didn’t know how serious it was and so the crowd had started towards the railroad tracks back, you know, behind our building there and we run towards that little, old island and kind of down there in that little street. We went as far as the first tracks and everybody was hollering and crying and policemen started running out that way and we said we better get back into the building, so we went back into the west entrance on the back dock had that low ramp and went into the back dock back inside the building.
Mr. BALL – First of all, let’s get you to tell us whom you left the steps with.
Mr. LOVELADY – Mr. Shelley.
Mr. BALL – Shelley and you went down how far?
Mr. LOVELADY – Well, I would say a good 75, between 75 to 100 yards to the first tracks. See how those tracks goes—
Mr. BALL – You went down the dead end on Elm?
Mr. LOVELADY – Yes.
Mr. BALL – And down to the first tracks?
Mr. LOVELADY – Yes.
Mr. BALL – Did you see anything there?
Mr. LOVELADY – No, sir; well, just people running.
Mr. BALL – That’s all?
Mr. LOVELADY – And hollerin.
Mr. BALL – How did you happen to go down there?
Mr. LOVELADY – I don’t know, because everybody was running from that way and naturally, I guess—
Mr. BALL – They were running from that way or toward that way?
Mr. LOVELADY – Toward that way; everybody thought it was coming from that direction.
Mr. BALL – By the time you left the steps had Mr. Truly entered the building?
Mr. LOVELADY – As we left the steps I would say we were at least 15. maybe 25. steps away from the building. I looked back and I saw him and the policeman running into the building.
Mr. BALL – How many steps?
Mr. LOVELADY – Twenty, 25.
Mr. BALL – Steps away and you looked back and saw him enter the building?
Mr. LOVELADY – Yes. At no time in the Couch film is Lovelady seen looking back.
Mr. BALL – Then you came back. How long did you stay around the railroad tracks?
Mr. LOVELADY – Oh, just a minute, maybe minute and a half.
Mr. BALL – Then what did you do?
Mr. LOVELADY – Came back right through that part where Mr. Campbell, Mr. Truly, and Mr. Shelley park their cars and I came back inside the building.
Mr. BALL – And enter from the rear?
Mr. LOVELADY – Yes, sir; sure did.
Mr. BALL – You heard the shots. And how long after that was it before Gloria Calvary came up?
Mr. LOVELADY – Oh, approximately 3 minutes, I would say.
Mr. BALL – Three minutes is a long time.
Mr. LOVELADY – Yes, it’s—I say approximately; I can’t say because I don’t have a watch; it could.
Mr. BALL – Had people started to run?
Mr. LOVELADY – Well, I couldn’t say because she came up to us and we was talking to her, wasn’t looking that direction at that time, but when we came off the steps–see, that entrance, you have a blind side when you go down the steps.
Mr. BALL – Right after you talked to Gloria, did you leave the steps and go toward the tracks?
Mr. LOVELADY – Yes.
Mr. BALL – Did you run or walk?
Mr. LOVELADY – Medium trotting or fast walk.
Mr. BALL – A fast walk?
Mr. LOVELADY – Yes.
Mr. BALL – How did you happen to turn around and see Truly and the policeman go into the building?
Mr. LOVELADY – Somebody hollered and I looked.
Mr. BALL – You turned around and looked?
Mr. LOVELADY – Yes. Again at no time in the Couch film is Lovelady seen looking back or responding to any hollering.

Lovelady then also destroys Vicky Adams’ testimony from a time perspective with his WC testimony, so the Commission can claim she was wrong.

It has become obvious that Bill Shelley and Billy Lovelady were lying while being interviewed by Joseph Ball all to mess with the timings perspective with regards Oswald and them going back to one of the rear entrances since that would also show how long it took before the building was actually secured. The TSBD  exits after the shooting resembled Swiss cheese for many minutes after the shooting.

These statements and the Warren Commission testimonies by Bill Shelly and Billy Lovelady show plenty that they did leave the steps almost immediately after the shooting and that they cannot be accounted on the steps for in the Jimmy Darnell film, besides walking westwards and being seen doing so in a better capture in the Malcolm Couch film.

 

Buell Frazier during his H.S.C.A. testimony (tape 2) is specifically asked by the interviewer when Lovelady and Shelley left the steps and to everyone’s amazement (including mine) he states that this happened before the motorcade made the turn on to to Elm St.

Subsequently he is confronted with the Altgens 6 photo which shows Lovelady standing on the steps while Kennedy is shot in the throat, so after the turn on Elm St.

Detailed crop of the HSCA version of Altgens 6 with Lovelady on the left.. Source Mary Ferrell.

 

In closing.

Shelly was Oswald’s supervisor and worked directly under Roy Truly.

Lovelady had a weapons charge dangling of which Ochus Campbell (Roy Truly’s boss) paid off the remainder of Lovelady’s fine as he was being re-arrested for non-payment.

You wonder where these men’s loyalties lie? Not with someone who only joined a month before the big event and who later on it turned out to be living in Russia for almost three years

There is quite a bit pointing to that Shelly and Lovelady left the steps to go west of the TSBD almost immediately after the shots had been fired. In fact Lovelady makes his way down the steps before Wiegman exited the car and that was before the head shot.

From the footage that is around with Lovelady in it. It shows that he was an inquisitive person as he manoeuvred himself up and down on those steps to get a better view of the limo.

 

 

Prayer Man The Movie December Update

The movie has been out and about just over three weeks and has had about 1,000 hits so far, which is more than I thought I would have so this amount has been a pleasant surprise.

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Stan Dane, and a few others did their best to gather as many likes, clicks or better yet viewings of the movie and the feedback has been extremely positive. I made a few mistakes such as misspelling two authors names, which is a massive screw up from my side, thanks to Ray Mitcham for pointing that out and this will be rectified for V2.

I have already applied some changes with regards media, Linda Giovanna Zambanini has been very helpful with identifying a few peeps and I myself have been lucky as well so there are more images to some of the peeps who are mentioned in the movie. The strange thing is that this quest to identify the people and the law enforcement personnel is only something from the past 3 years or so that online researchers started to dig into the identities of the peeps that were ‘involved’.

The overall goal with V2 is to make it all a bit more comprehensive and above all clearer for everyone to go through since it is quite a bit of data that needs to be absorbed. I myself think that the movie will be closer to two hours once the other bits have been added. The women will get their ‘say’: Vicky Adams, Sandra Styles, Carolyn Arnold, Geneva Hine are a few that will be featured. The interrogations of Oswald will get a huge redo. The intro will be changed as well. So in short V2 will be a complete new movie.

And then after V2, the book and this website will get my full attention, the site already gets sporadic page updates, but at some point the big one will happen and all text and media will be added on en masse, when that will be is still a bit of an enigma but no doubt I’ll be shouting this of the roof tops once done.

The negative reactions I received were piss poor not one could refute the barrage of evidence that was used in conjunction with the media presented. They could only push their own ideas forward since that is the only thing they can believe in, instead of reading and above all studying all the evidence, zealots who will only believe what they see as true. Quite boring actually and not worth any further attention.